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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Red Mage Lv 90

    Limited Job: Chemist/Salve-maker/Apothecary?

    Seeing as Blue Mage has a spellbook, it could be neat to have a Mix-based job with some kind of recipe book for different effects.

    I figure instead of using potions from your inventory, though, enabling people to just immediately mix items together and make everything on launch, maybe it could involve manipulating some kind of new item drops from mobs. Perhaps something like the seed/dust materials in Octopath, or the items like Beast Liver from Bravely Default.

    Given the versatility of Mix, you could have attack themed recipes, ones based around healing and longevity, or ones based around buffing your defenses or stats.
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    SoleilAlphi's Avatar
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    Radimir Amarya
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 21
    THAT'S IT! I'VE COME UP WITH A NEW RECIPE! (sorry I had to say it)
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    Xyno Edajos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Please no, CHemist is my second favorite job. If 2/3 of my top FF classes are limited jobs I'll be extremely sad that the only one I get to enjoy is BLM while CHemist and Blue Mage both get stuck as minigames.
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Considering things pointing towards the next expansion to take place in Garlemald... Chemist would thematically work as a regular healer class as they've established that Garleans can't use magic
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    Fredya Falenas
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 81
    Chemist as an Hybrid DPS/Healing class.

    Similar to what Alchemist/Biochemist was in Ragnarok Online, just Final Fantasy themed. Throwing both potions for single or aoe healing/buffing and other salvo as DPS solutions. Maybe very AoE oriented. Like AoE ranged combos. Throwing water bomb, then fire bomb, then electric bomb to create a thunderstorm area, or oil and then fire for a fire damage area, or stuff like that.

    One class i would love to see is Risk Breakers. I kinda wish Gunblade class is called that, a very high risk, high reward DPS class, kinda like RDM but instead of magic, physical damage. Calling it just "Gunblade" doesn't cut it. Soldier could be...?
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    "The will of my friends has etched into my heart, and now ill transform this infinite darkness into eternal light
    Unmatched in heaven and earth, one body and one soul that challenge the gods!"

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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    How about no, lets not actually shoehorn highly anticipated jobs into the limited job category?
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    Fredya Falenas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    How about no, lets not actually shoehorn highly anticipated jobs into the limited job category?
    Thing is, most original FF jobs don't really work well in their concepts with our very limiting trinity. BLU mage doesn't fit in a world of DPS-TANK-Healers. Nor does Chemist actually. These limited jobs are probably a way to implement, eventually, highly demanded jobs, while leaving main classes additions exclusively to XIV originals or new re-interpretations of existing jobs.

    I think this limited job thing, is exactly for that, implement "weirder" classes in a more "classic" way. Like, for people that wants a more legit Blue Mage that actually progresses differently and has skills that cover all three roles instead of just one. Or future... IDK. How would you implement a Mathematician, Oracle, Mime... Has "very exclusive jobs" most of our jobs could be literal prestigie classes/hybrid classes on other MMORPGs, i know for sure from homebrewing D&D that FF classes make for amazing advanced classes, yet they do not fit with extremely tight concepts of pure performance and perfect balance... You gotta give them, proper scenarios.

    FFXIV can: Add new classes never seen before. Re-interpretate old classes, many of which are diferent for every fan based on their experience with them (For me Samurais are either Spellcaster tanks or CounterAttack glass cannons, not these... Sustained DPS with bursts...?) Or finally, try to implement their unique features as classes and create some scenarios/conditions so they don't bother the main classes rigid balance and can be implemented for fans.

    Either shot they call, someone will be very vocal. I think this action is good for more "advanced" classes. The other thing, would be to revamp the whole combat system and allow a 4th role which can be fulfilled by many "advanced classes" like "Support".
    I mean you can also just slap the name blue mage, give it generic skill names randomly, remove all this progression system, make it a caster and call it a day. But then again, would that be a Blue Mage?

    In my book, DRGs don't jump enough, Samurai should be tanks that do counter damage and block/counter based on stance dancing, and lalafells shouldn't exists.
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    "The will of my friends has etched into my heart, and now ill transform this infinite darkness into eternal light
    Unmatched in heaven and earth, one body and one soul that challenge the gods!"

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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 90
    1. Make potions/medicines usable on other players.
    2. Equip Alembic and become alchemist.
    3. ???
    4. You're now a chemist. GG

    In more seriousness, no. BLU is horribly designed and implemented in its current state. I think they made the "Limited Job" idea just to give themselves an excuse to be lazy. I would not encourage them to make more such jobs until they get thier act together and figure out what they want to do with them. Personally, I'd rather them just ditch the idea all together and actually implement real jobs. Have some creativity. Why couldn't BLU have been a limited job in the sense that equipping spells gave you points and stats toward one of the three main roles and you could freely flow between them outside of a duty? I'll admit that I was never optimistic about the idea of limited jobs, but with BLU in particular they had so much potential to make the limited job idea shine and... it fell so flat. Everything about the job right down to the quests seems so lazy.
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    Seraphitia Faro
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    2. Equip Alembic and become alchemist.
    3. ???
    4. You're now a chemist. GG
    Chemist and alchemist are two different things. You absolutely should not mix them up with each other.

    As for the thread, that would be rather...weird. No, Chemist should not be a limited job simply for the fact that it screams "healer". And a healer/tank being a limited job is pointless, seeing as these are very much party-oriented roles.
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Chemist and alchemist are two different things. You absolutely should not mix them up with each other.

    As for the thread, that would be rather...weird. No, Chemist should not be a limited job simply for the fact that it screams "healer". And a healer/tank being a limited job is pointless, seeing as these are very much party-oriented roles.
    Apparently you did not bother to read the very next sentence of my post. If I was being serious after that sentence, it should follow that I was not before it.
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