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  1. #21
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Looked like a copy and paste ff12. Still don't see how fran has anything to do with new content and why they brought her into the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    ...

    "I don't like it."

    "But...we put in Fran in the game exactly the way you wanted!"

    "Yeah... but maybe it's TOO much like Fran. Do it over, and this time try not to embarrass yourselves."

    Swear, one of these days, Yoshi-P's just going to snap and murder everyone at a Fan Fest.
    X: I want thing
    Y: I don't want thing
    You: Why does X want thing and hate when they get it?!?!?! This is why Yoshi P is gonna snap
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Looked like a copy and paste ff12. Still don't see how fran has anything to do with new content and why they brought her into the game.
    This is a Final Fantasy game. It has appearances of characters from other games in it. Why are people still surprised at this?
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Did this bother anyone else? They ripped her directly from FF12 remaster. Which would be fine if it was the actual Fran. But having our version of Fran use the real Fran's model is odd, to say the least.
    Did it not bother you with Ba'Gamnan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Looked like a copy and paste ff12. Still don't see how fran has anything to do with new content and why they brought her into the game.
    Play XII again and look at them side by side, they are definitely not copy pasted
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  6. #26
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    It will only start to be weird if Fran becomes a staple part of the Eorzean Alliance if/when Dalmasca joins the fray. Constantly seeing the characters of the 5.0 MSQ going through the storyline...with Fran from FFXII by their side, will be a little weird, yes. I suspect we will not see Fran again except as an NPC standing around on the Prima Vista (or killed off!), and it will be her as-yet-unseen boss, FFXIV's version of Ashe, who will be the Dalmasca stand-in for the Alliance. This Ashe acting/looking only passingly similar to FFXII's Ashe the same way FFXIV's Krile is only passingly like FFV's Krile.
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    Last edited by Espritduo; 01-14-2019 at 11:01 AM.

  7. #27
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    Dalmasca while being an officially established thing in FF 14 due to Dalmascan Fusilier in Doma... I don't know if it will be particularly relevant in Shadowbringers. With where the MSQ is headed, it doesn't seem so.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Did this bother anyone else? They ripped her directly from FF12 remaster. Which would be fine if it was the actual Fran. But having our version of Fran use the real Fran's model is odd, to say the least.
    I disagree. The models are VERY different in details and texture, just look:

    FFXIV:


    FFXII:


    They are clearly not the same.

    FFXII's models are much more detailed in it's texture. FFXIV is just bland texture all over while FFXII has details to skin shadow and tone, the hair, while not having HD textures, has more polygons and has a unique color.

    The body is also completely different, since datamine confirms that Fran is using a Hyur Body.

    FFXII:
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    Last edited by LeoLupinos; 01-14-2019 at 12:10 PM.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxaan View Post
    The XIV Fran model is not a rip from XII. If you look back at the XII model she has longer arms, bigger hands and claws. The proportions of the body are slightly different as well.
    Her eye colour and eyebrow shape is a little different too than FF12 remastered Fran
    Edit: which I noticed before the side-by-side :3.
    Another edit: They made her ears shorter in FF14 too :/

    As for the lack of claws on FFXIV Viera, I'll probably just use the claws of the beast which I use on my miqote already
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 01-14-2019 at 12:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    FFXII's models are much more detailed in it's texture. FFXIV is just bland texture all over while FFXII has details to skin shadow and tone, the hair, while not having HD textures, has more polygons and has a unique color.
    Keep in mind, the characters in FFXII usually look more detailed in cutscenes than in actual gameplay. The same technique is also used in Kingdom Hearts, and they do well in there as well.

    In FFXIV you have the 'one size fits all' approach, with maybe a new set of animations to be different.
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