Suggestion: healer-based incentives/rewards

[AlexiosCalisthenes]

Good evening Developers/SE and fellow forum readers

I was wondering if the developers would consider looking into some reward base items for healers. Since there are more healers than there are tanks, the rewards can be a lot more challenging than the ones for tanks currently. Perhaps 5,000 commendations as a healer, or running roulettes 10,000 times, something along those lines. The rewards could also be different for different healers.

I suggest a huge fairy mount for scholar, a star globe for astrologian and a tree-walking mount (like Ennt from LOTR) for white mage?

Also, would there be further tiers to player commendations as rewards. It would be nice, as I'm asked to heal a lot and have already gotten the parade chocobo. A lot of fellow healers I've spoken to have chimed in that a bit of incentive or rewards for healing would be nice.

Thank you!

[Transient_Shadow]

It would be nice to get a little recognition with maybe an achievement or two. And as far as mounts go I think a giant Tonberry would be awesome for sch, more unicorns for whm, and something sharlyan for ast.

[Kurando]

I agree that healers should get more mounts, the current Unicorn isn't enough and also that's just a side quest, it doesn't recognize your contribution enough to healing regularly in duties.

Saying this it would be nice for every kind of sub-role to get unique mount a well, so one for melee dps, ranged, casters etc. I'd like to think it would encourage players to use other jobs more and learn their toolkits or what they can do, a little knowledge of other jobs goes far in party environments.

[Kazrah]

I think it'll only happen once healer becomes the "role in need" for every Duty Finder roulette type for at least a week.

That being said though, I definitely agree on the request for more commendation rewards.

[Rymm]

I think it'll only happen once healer becomes the "role in need" for every Duty Finder roulette type for at least a week.

Pretty much this. The tank mounts were added to move the DF queues along, pure and simple. I'm not saying I'd be against class mounts for healers (or even across the board) but SE has no incentive to put in the effort.

About comm rewards, this should definitely be a thing. The longer the game runs, the more people will rack up comms. It only makes sense to add a new reward every once in a while. I do remember hearing some rumor about a datamined mount that was just the Parade Chocobo mount in black. There was a lot of speculation that it'll be the next reward mount since the original Parade Chocobo is the 3k comm reward.

[Marxam]

Give these healers their rewards for playing the hardest roles in the game, and that is coming from a veteran WAR player since 2.0 launch. Tanks keep the party safe while Healers keep the party alive. DPS... ugh... just don't place your aoes near me.

[kikix12]

About comm rewards, this should definitely be a thing. The longer the game runs, the more people will rack up comms. It only makes sense to add a new reward every once in a while.

This is an MMO. That means that it depends on people entering the game at any part of its life. Making ridiculous achievements that take years to finish may not seem like a problem to the guy that is 90% done with it when its released due to having played for those years, but it is a MASSIVE turn-off for the new player.

No achievement should take more than several weeks, maybe months, for a fresh, active player. For achievements like dungeons which are natural part of the game it can be a lengthier time, maybe a year or so (for ACTIVE player). But nothing further. So no...Ever-increasing numbers of commendations is not a good idea.

Making commendations gotten as X class, that's good. If a person wants it, they can start using that class and get it in a reasonable time-frame. An achievement for ridiculous amount of commendations?! No, nope, nah, no way. It's adding to the negatives to any new players. Something that literally kills games and why Final Fantasy offers TONS of experience bonuses for new players to catch up.

[Tint]

This is an MMO. That means that it depends on people entering the game at any part of its life. Making ridiculous achievements that take years to finish may not seem like a problem to the guy that is 90% done with it when its released due to having played for those years, but it is a MASSIVE turn-off for the new player.

I partially agree. It should not be a mount, pet, or any item at all. But they can add titles for these insane achievments. Well, maybe they can add (glamour) items, but it should only be accessorys like a special earring for example. Nothing too fancy.

[Rymm]

This is an MMO.

Thanks for the heads up.

I can acknowledge and agree that new players are important in order to keep the game alive, let alone thriving. That's just basic common sense.

What I feel we fundamentally disagree on, is the idea of whether or not all rewards (every last achievement, item, title, etc., etc.) ever placed in the game should be easily obtainable by every player. I think most should be. But some should also be very difficult and/or time consuming. Some should even be limited.

I don't think it's right to make rewards progressively worse as time goes by. That mentality effectively penalizes veterans at the expense of making things easier for new players. Easier being the operative word; this particular case does not even hinge on being doable or not. Because if they were to continue adding cumulative rewards, it's not like they'd be going anywhere. New players are still perfectly able to get them, for the exact same time and effort that everyone else put in.

It's a cosmetic item; it has no material bearing on the game except to say "I put in X effort at Y activity". It shouldn't be equated to helping new players "catch up" to veterans either in leveling (xp bonuses) or gearing (removing weekly tome or loot caps); both things they need in order to actually progress through and experience all of the game's content.

[wereotter]

This is an MMO. That means that it depends on people entering the game at any part of its life. Making ridiculous achievements that take years to finish may not seem like a problem to the guy that is 90% done with it when its released due to having played for those years, but it is a MASSIVE turn-off for the new player.

No achievement should take more than several weeks, maybe months, for a fresh, active player. For achievements like dungeons which are natural part of the game it can be a lengthier time, maybe a year or so (for ACTIVE player). But nothing further. So no...Ever-increasing numbers of commendations is not a good idea.

Making commendations gotten as X class, that's good. If a person wants it, they can start using that class and get it in a reasonable time-frame. An achievement for ridiculous amount of commendations?! No, nope, nah, no way. It's adding to the negatives to any new players. Something that literally kills games and why Final Fantasy offers TONS of experience bonuses for new players to catch up.

This is exactly the reason they eliminated the veteran rewards program. We were getting to the point that a new player would have looked at it and realized they wouldn't get that sweet Zidane glamor (or whatever other one they were eyeing) until they had been playing the game for literally YEARS at which point, at the rate it was going, there would be other items added in, possibly that they would never get.

Adding in items that players might want but logistically won't ever obtain is bad for player morale, especially if it's in a role you're wanting to draw players to. Even now the commendations are rough for people not playing healer as a primary job. I've been in the game since 2.0 and still don't have the parade chocobo because I main a DPS job, and tended to only get comms when leveling tank and healer jobs despite how well I performed as a DPS or how mediocrely I performed as a healer.