What exactly IS a White Mage?

[HyperiusUltima]

.....What?

My exact reaction to his statement.

I don't think you understand @Johaandr.

To put it simply, a good amount of the talk here has been about what can be done to improve WHM's viability since as it stands right now the other healers can literally heal the same as WHM while WHM brings nothing to the table to compensate. This thread wouldn't exist if WHM had an identity, and that identity has been thrown out the window due to AST/SCH oGCDs taking precedence over WHM's GCD Healing(which, in our current state, is not entirely needed due to the AST cast reduction buff they got in 4.4 and what AST brings to the table) and even its damage output based on data. I've also taken a good peek at the "Nerf SCH" thread as well and have seen some good arguments about how SCH can be taken down a notch without breaking it.

In reality, most people who pose reasonable arguments on the forums tend to have a reason to do so; whether it be positive or negative feedback based on how jobs are performing in the current raid tier or in general. A good example of this was the WHM uprising about Lilies that they predicted were going to be crap upon release and turned out to be true, and gave Yoshida and the Battle Team feedback on such either through here or through in-game feedback.

[Johaandr]

.....What?

Thats my signature

[tinythinker]

Thats my signature

My search line in-game typically includes "uhh...what?" or "uhh...wot?"

I'm often confused about what's going on

[HyperiusUltima]

So, Patch 4.5 adjustments are here, and we got this:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...M-on-4.5-patch

I don't understand why they're so focused on the healing aspect(outside of Aggro generation, which WHM desperately needed adjusting for) instead of giving WHM better damage to properly balance out with AST. But...I guess WHM will always be in the shadow of a superior healer that can literally get all their oGCDs off freely without clipping.

Just give it the AST treatment already and I'm sure people may consider playing WHM again.

[miraidensetsu]

Well, I'm considering on switching my main job. AST is fantastic this expac and SCH appears to be well-rounded.

[Yuyuka3]

Not everyone is into the raid scene, and WHM is fine for other areas of the game. For those who are into progression raiding I understand where some of the frustration comes from, yet there are those without the time or interest for the peak of end-game content. For those who want a really simple to get-into healer that can manage random people tossed together into a roulette, WHM is great. Its simplicity is not a drawback in such situations, it's a bonus. Players who get bored with that can move on to managing a pet or a deck of cards. The lily system is fertile ground for trying to make up for WHM's blandness as players reach higher levels as well as its shortcomings in prog if SE handles it right in 5.0.

So just because it's fine elsewhere means the job needs to be hamstrung in raids forever? Sorry, I call bulls. I've met ASTs in experts who never used cards on my PLD (which is a pretty good example of an easy, accessible job that is quite sought after because, you know, it actually got shit none other can do while still being easy enough to learn so even noobs can play it decently enough), and SCHs who barely seem to be aware that you can and should micro-manage your fairy. We still cleared, because know what? Balance means jack shit in anything outside of raids, so saying "WHM is fine because it's usable anywhere except raids" is just plain idiotic and if I see this sorry excuse for an argument only one more time I'm going to throw up. The fact that you seem to be one of very few thinking so should also be a pretty good clue that maybe there really is something wrong here. Not saying the group is always right, but if several players who played the job since 2.0 (or longer) tell you there is something wrong, even switched to other jobs for raids because it's easier to get groups that way/it doesn't feel like being a freaking burden, you might want to listen to those people.

[Yokko_Kanno]

You honestly should consider it. Ast is in a wonderful spot the changes last patch feels so good to play. You probably won't even want to change back.

[Yuyuka3]

You honestly should consider it. Ast is in a wonderful spot the changes last patch feels so good to play. You probably won't even want to change back.

I'll switch to SCH or stop playing completely long before I will ever consider that, thank you very much.

[Yokko_Kanno]

I'll switch to SCH or stop playing completely long before I will ever consider that, thank you very much.

I meant to quote miraidensetsu.

[Songwillow]

I personally love SCH as they are so good and maintaining heals and also are great at DPS as well. They also are amazing at MP management. Also shields are more powerful than the AST since they can grant better shields on crit. I used to play WHM a lot and they haven't been fun to play since HW to be honest. AST is not my play style personally but I know a lot of people that swear by them. My issue with AST is their MP management and their dependency on RNG. They can be fun when they work well and are still useful in teams, but I find SCH to be the most reliable with minimal downtime due to their amazing MP control and their fairy.