It's gone too far about the mog station SE

[Adrestia]

But inventory expansion is available in game.You get 2 retainers,Glamor dresser and chocobo saddle bag and armoire.ALL FREE.
And like i have stated they increased inventory size.
Chocobo saddlebag is your MMO version of buying a bag to increase inventory size.You dont even have to do quest to get it once you have chocobo or is it a drop or somehting you need to buy off a vendor npc.
And claiming story skip is to solve the cm/prae issue? Are you serious?
There is pf and roulette for that which are both still doing the job fine.
Where do you get these rediculous theories from?

You're going to have to read all the words. Not some of them. All of them.

The only thing I claimed about the MSQ skip potions is that, because they exist, they may have subdued SE's sense of urgency.

[Metalwrath]

You're going to have to read all the words. Not some of them. All of them.

The only thing I claimed about the MSQ skip potions is that, because they exist, they may have subdued SE's sense of urgency.

You may want to read patch notes sometime.They made several changes and adjustments to story roulette to adress the issue so no MSQ pots did not delay them doing so.
Honestly the things you come up with are so random and make no sense.

[Metalwrath]

And just to further clarify that you have absolutley no idea what you are talking about the skip potions were introduced with stormblood.
The issue arising with slow queues to complete prae and CM didnt appear till about a year after.
And this was the result of a change they made due to new player feedback.Because older players were rushing through and forcing new players to skip cutscenes.
Then they made cutscenes unskippable so less players did the roullette.
SE stated they were monitoring the situation and were going to adjust rewards based on data of how things went.They then shortly after buffed rewards.They did this several times after also.
MSQ skip potion had nothing to do with this equation.

[Adrestia]

And just to further clarify that you have absolutley no idea what you are talking about the skip potions were introduced with stormblood.
The issue arising with slow queues to complete prae and CM didnt appear till about a year after.
And this was the result of a change they made due to new player feedback.Because older players were rushing through and forcing new players to skip cutscenes.
Then they made cutscenes unskippable so less players did the roullette.
SE stated they were monitoring the situation and were going to adjust rewards based on data of how things went.They then shortly after buffed rewards.They did this several times after also.
MSQ skip potion had nothing to do with this equation.

Mmmmaaayyyyybbbeee spend less time trying to lay these sick burns on me and think about what you're saying and how much of what I'm saying you are missing.

The fixes were, if you listen to the amount of people still frustrated, incomplete.
I never said the MSQ potions are the reason that happened.
The MSQ potions are here now though, and they still haven't made everyone happy.
I'm only asking the question of whether it is possible that because there is now "an alternative" in the MSQ potions, they feel some degree less urgency to fix it.

Basically, I'm asking you to apply a little higher order thinking and not just sit here expecting that the only way this possibly makes sense is if you literally catch Yoshida with a smoking nerfgun in his hand and an evil grin on his face. If you can only speak in absolute black and whites and can't or won't hypothesize just a bit, then it's no wonder we're not even having the same conversation.

I'm *aware* that neither I nor anyone here can demonstrate with absolute certainty that anything is being handled in a way that doesn't put the player first. I moved past that before I even started typing. Based on that, the only thing I *can* do is consider everything that is in front of me and decide how I feel about that.

For me, that means extrapolating on my experiences in this game and others, comparing what's happening with monetization in this game to what's happening with monetization in other games, and coming up with some possible conclusions as to why we *might* be where we are.

Based on my experiences, my feeling is that SE is not putting the player first in some of their decisions. I think that they should be. If it's not pure greed, then maybe they need to reflect on how their decisions compare with other games in the P2P MMO space, and how their decisions compare with games that use freemium models. I don't think they'll find that they are wholly aligned with the norms of a P2P MMO. Maybe they're okay with that, maybe they're not.

[Metalwrath]

Adrestia i havent missed what you've stated.
You're trying to make up your own facts or possibilities and nothing more.
There's no credibility to your statements.
I've listened to what you have to say and ive countered those arguments and proved you wrong.
The issue here is you refuse to accept that and lying and stating that ive missed your points wont change that as you keep trying to change your story of what you are implying.

[KadaRemnant]

Well, i posted this thread because i didn't like it was $7 each but i learned those emotes were from japan server so i guess okay it makes sense.

All i hope and don't want to see is all the good outfits and emotes being put in mog station and very few in the game. I hope we are always valued for playing and because it makes everyone happy to get rewards. I think it's important.

[Hyperia]

We have to pay for the Chinese and Korean items because those were made by partner companies and SE does not have the ability to give them away. SE gives away a ton of glamour items in game and in 5.0 they are going to be adding a ton included in that expansion. There are many items that were exclusives in other countries that I wanted and I was happy to see them brought over for us to purchase.

No matter how much complaining about the Mogststion, it’s not going away. Yoshi has already promised that this game won’t go PTW, the Mogststion is all about glams. The skips are 100% optional and help people get past the ARR mountain. It’s time to accept that the Mogststion is here, it’s not going away and is helping to support this game.

It’s time for people to understand that SE is a business and they have to make a profit, there is no free lunch and your subs only pay to keep the lights on. Mogststion and expansions purchases helps pay for the development. If you made the Mogststion go away, this game would take a serious hit.

[Erza_Scarlets]

One thing I don't agree with on mogstation is the maid outfit is for single character after they had all the maid/butler/etc codes for spending 20$ or more on promo. Like really would it of been that hard to make it account wide. They literally went out of their way to make another maid outfit(Same exact model) and make it only single character when they had account wide one already.

PS: People forget se's excuse of why they couldn't add more to the invo and saddlebag till they put double saddlebag behind another paywall with crappy promo sub for the app.
Its funny when their server issues magically disappear when they add another paywall to get said invo/bag.
Plus it's only going to get worse and worse they can and will make more higher priced items cause they will always sell.

[ErysNight]

SE, your Mogstation is fine. It's not pay to win and the items you place there are optional.

Please don't be discouraged by people that feel as though their cheap sub pays for all you do for us.

I 100% support a supplemental method of generating revenue, especially considering how you're growing the game.

Further, thank you for even bringing us in the main global game (NA, EU and JP) the emotes and glam you are commissioned to make just for Korea and China. I think it's really cool it even gets to us at all.

I haven't bought the emotes yet, but when they go on sale in a year I sure will.

People will complain no matter what you do, so just know that the vocal minority does not represent your player base and I hope your sales confirm what I'm saying.

Please continue to share more with us from the world.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

You do realize without the income from the Mog Station you should probably get even less content, since their budget would be even smaller?

I'm not that sure of it... Yoshida already said the woman in charge of mog station does not depend on him or the FFXIV team. The mog station team decides what should be there, ffxiv's team implements it. From that, we can deduce that Mog Station is more a "company store" than a "game store". There's absolutely no transparency on where the money from mog station goes. Maybe it's 90% to FFXIV, 10% to SE, but I frankly doubt it.

As long as the FFXIV team does not command the mog station team, it will be mostly a bad thing for the game, IMO.