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    Quote Originally Posted by Hercub View Post
    Not to provoke people, but the ignore function is everyone's friend on here. You can go to a person's profile and block their messages, it's called the ignore function. This FF14 community has so many great members, if all the people who sign onto the forum with bad intent are ignored then we'd have the most easy streamline conversations.

    I've never used the ignore function before in other forums because no matter how much I disagree with someone I still want to hear what they have to write. But, come on, when people are writing complete jibberish all the time (the same people) and others are using this forum for something other than the video game itself or the community itself, or people are just overly technical in talk for a simple video game (clearly they don't want someone like me to read their comments) then, well, the ignore function is appropriate.

    Feel free to put me on ignore.
    I must admit, I am also confused where this post even came from. Didn't seem like anything nefarious was being said prior to your posting this.

    Help a confused lizard understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hercub View Post
    Well, here is one of the threads I was talking about exclusively for Healers. It's old and goes back to 2013. So, my only problem is I can't go back and ask these men and women questions. So, here is the link to this forum:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Healing-Macros

    So, for example I don't understand the target command <mo> which means Mouse Over. I assume what that means as a Healer One Button One Macro will allow the Healer to select anyone on the Party Bar instead of actually selecting the Physical PC (Playing Character). But I don't know if that's accurate. And I don't know if at this point in 2018 there is something better. Remember Macros evolve over time.

    So, you could look at that thread and ask questions here.

    Thanks.
    <mo> means you can mouseover their name in party list rather than full click it. Can make things easier not having to detarget boss.
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    You just shouldn't really use combat macros. They keep skills from queuing properly and almost always guarantee clipping. Until you have a strong understanding of a job and how it actually plays I would say just don't do it as you may form some bad habits that are hard to break later on.
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    Obviously it's preferable to avoid most macros (auto target macros for ground AoEs are a big exception), but if you're really determined to heal using Macros then you should be using the <mo> target instead. This will make it so whatever party member your mouse is over on the party list will receive the heal without you changing targets. I highly recommend this with Embrace from both fairies.
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    Macros are for crafting, not healing.
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    I tend to only macro embrace so that Eos/Selene will have a better chance at having her heal hit the person i'm targeting with my main heal. Also back when T2 enrage was a thing it helped a lot to have some of the other fairy abilities tied to sacred soil or succor that would help if you got a double sch run.

    As Corbin has said macroing by many is to be used with crafting more than battle classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hercub View Post
    there really is no way to be a Healer without Macros.
    Yeah, that's completely not true. While there are healers who use mouse over macros to great effect, there is absolutely ZERO requirement for it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hercub View Post
    So, for example /ac "Cure" <2> means Cure the second person in the party with /ac "Cure" <me> being yourself in the game. So, for a healer there would be four buttons to Cure yourself and three members of a party. This prevents you from having to click on people to Heal them, especially if everyone is crowded together. (remember you have to literally click on people to cure them, except if you use this set of macros. <me> needs to be there otherwise you will have to click on yourself)
    So question for you: have you considered how healers work on controller, where clicking isn't always an option? Because you don't have to click on people, that's just ONE method.

    Regardless, this is a waste. There are ALREADY keybinds (they are the F keys by default, but can be changed) that will target a specific numbered member of your party immediately when pressed. You can click on their names in the party list as another way as well. Cures will automatically target you if you do not already have a target selected, or have an enemy targeted.


    Macros in general are a bad idea for combat. While some accompanied by a party message are helpful (such as someone inforiming other members they are raising another, or a tank is using their invulnerability), or ground targeting abilities, you want to avoid using them. The battle system queues your next attack when pressed as much as a half second in advance, and will execute it immediately when it's available. Macros cannot do this, and thus are slower to execute. Over long fights, this adds up, and it's MUCH clunkier to play like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hercub View Post
    there really is no way to be a Healer without Macros.
    The only combat macro I use is one to announce who I am raising.

    Macros severely hurt your DPS because they prevent skill queuing. And I doubt you're going to have hotbar space for 8 macros (for 8-man content) for every single-target skill you have at end game. Each healer already has over 30 skills...

    Save yourself now, delete your macros. They will teach you very bad habits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Schmoe View Post
    As healer in Eureka I use the /assist (aka target of target) macro a lot, since it works both ways. Target a monster, then hit the /assist macro, and it will target the person that's being attacked ie. the person the monster is targeting. This is very useful in Eureka, where there's often huge hordes of players around, making it very difficult to pinpoint who's actually taking the damage. Is the person okay? Just hit the macro again and it'll target the monster he's attacking, so you can do some DPS. Great for when he pulls lots of monsters and you don't want to pull aggro, especially when he switches targets a lot.
    If your macro is just /assist with nothing else, you might want to just use the keybind for this, save yourself some bar clutter. It'll also help avoid weird macro interference issues.
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    OK, so the sense I am getting is that Macros are problematic maybe one day this will be fixed as I see the potential for them.

    As for me I normally Bard or Monk. I'm completely new to healing so I figured maybe macros would be the right direction. So, as this is still questionable for me what I will do before I do a dungeon (my Healer is only level 20 and only qualifies for Tam-Tara I believe) I'll do guildhests with Macros as a Healer to see how this works and to see if this is optimal.

    I've been looking at that thread and I find that thread really inspiring. It seems at one time Macros were a thing even if they are not now. They are so easy to create on the logic is so accessible that I just wanted to inform people of these things.

    I'll do a guildhest in the future can't really play FF14 tonight because I'm having a drink and betting on horse races.

    Thanks for anyone who replied. I'll check in this thread probably tomorrow.
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