Gunblade job must be a DPS.

[Tanro]

I wouldnt be surprised if gunblade was a limited job introduced in 5.0

However I would prefer it to be a tank.

If we get 1 or 2 dps jobs in 5.0 the queue times will not change. The only real benefit to the queue when we get a new tank or healer with an expansion is the duty finder is asking for dps as the adventurer in need instead of tank. We saw this with DRK for the first 2-3 weeks of HW launch.

Whether its a dps or tank. Regardless which one it is, people will be mad.

Que times are never going to change. The people that want to tank or heal will tank or heal. The people who don't wont. That will not change no matter how many new healer and tank jobs you add.

Look at wow, every single new class it has ever added has had a Tank Role as an option for that class. And yet, it has never once ever decreased queue times in any meaningful way.

When they added DRK and AST in HW it affected queue times for a brief period because those new jobs don't get to pick their role, the job is the role in this game. People that liked tanking stuck with DRK or went back to their preferred job. Same for AST. Making gunblade a tank job because "muh queue times" isn't going do anything.

The only reason for it to be a tank job would be because Tanks and Healers deserve new jobs after 3.5 years of no new jobs. Will be approx 4 years by the time SB2 drops.

Some have argued gunblade is the only job left for tanking. Buts simply not true. If you wanna go look at the jobs page on a final fantasy wiki I'm sure you could easily pick 3-5 jobs that would be tank jobs. Or could be made into tank jobs. I can think of 3 without looking, Viking, Sentinel, and Holy Knight. Im sure if I looked at the wiki I could pick out 3 more and reasons why they could be tanks.

[SargentToughie]

Just a quick question. Would everyone be ok with the Gunblade job being a DPS if we got a Tank and Healer as well?

It would need to be a really good tank.

There seems to be this subtext in conversations like this, basically along the lines of: "I don't want this cool job to be a tank" as if being a tank somehow sullies, or tarnishes the job. What, is playing a tank somehow beneath you, or something?

What sort of tank job do you think would properly compensate for something as iconic, beloved, and popular as the Gunblade going towards giving us our Fifth melee DPS, and our 2nd added in as many expansions?

Yes we need another melee dps. I am a melee player and I don't really like any of the current melee options. I've stuck with DRG because its the best of terrible options we have. Monk being stupid, ninja being annoying, and samurai being meh.

According to your Lodestone you have a level 11 Pugilist, haven't even started leveling Ninja, and your Samurai is at 50.

Real good experience you're speaking from, there. Thanks for your input.

[shao32]

Just a quick question. Would everyone be ok with the Gunblade job being a DPS if we got a Tank and Healer as well?

i will be ok, but have to be a cool tank, as long it have cool aesthetics and nice gameplay im up for it, but im not gonna lie i preffer gunblade as tank.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Its got a tank stance. Sooo

It has a red icon, and uses ranged magic DPS gear and role actions. So...

[TruebladeNuke]

I realize I'm making a serious post in a thread in which the OP has a known reputation on here, but I feel the discussion is serious enough to warrant a serious reply from me.

Back before BLU was officially announced, I didn't care too much about on Gunblade either being a Tank or a DPS. If it came as a DPS, then I would have just hoped for BLU to be a Tank. If it came as a Tank, then I'd just hope for BLU to be a Tank at a later date or come in with Gunblade as a DPS. But after we all saw what happened to BLU, I'm now pinning my hopes on Gunblade being a Tank. Though I don't think I have to pray too hard on that, due to everything we've seen so far. The whole showcase for 5.0 went and gave a few too many clues that Gunblade is going to be a Tank, IMO. In particular, I'm looking at that "Trust" system. It's pretty obvious that they're going to throw the major members of the scions at us first for that system. But... none of the current scion members would even remotely qualify as a Tank.

... Wait. What's that? Thancred got another appearance overhaul? And he's wielding a Gunblade? $5 says Thancred is going through on this change for the sake of giving us a go to Tank character for the Trust system upon initial release of 5.0

On that note, there's that leaker who's been scary accurate so far on his "predictions" (he's GOT to be getting info directly from SE somehow), like calling out that BLU would be out in 4.5. (And he was right) Honestly, at this point, I'll be very surprised if Gunblade is anything but a Tank at this point. Throw in DNC as a healer to accompany our likely new Tank and I'll be very happy. If we do get a third job to be a DPS, I'll be fine with that. (So long as it isn't DNC. I want a healer DNC ssssssssoooooooooo bad) But if we don't get a third job, then I'd simply like to remind everyone in advance that they said we'd get multiple new jobs when Stormblood was coming out... and we only got 2 new jobs. (Which, to be fair, 2 is technically multiple jobs) Soooo... don't get your hopes up to high.

For some of the comments in here, I can't help but notice that there's this underlying tone behind some of the posts that reek of "Tanks don't deserve any cool jobs". It was like this in Heavensward too. Hell, to this day, I still see people moan and whine about DRK being a Tank. That underlying tone really grates me frankly speaking. Why should DPS be the only one to get cool jobs? Tank and Healer mains exist in this game too you know. We deserve cool jobs too.

As for cue times, I don't care. In fact, back in Heavensward when the Tank and Healer cue times were choked for a little while, I was actually happy to see that. It meant people were actually taking Tanks and Healers into Duty Roulette. You know what I did during that time? I simply took MCH into Duty Roulette during the "Day of the instant DPS cues" days. (Yes, I still remember those days) For that matter, if I have to sit there and wait on a cue time, I still don't care. There's plenty of things to do in the overworld while waiting on the cue time. And there will be a lot to do come 5.0. Plenty of hunts, side quests, etc, to get through while I have that cue timer running.

*Waits for someone to say "Get our of here with your logic about cue timers!"*

[armandojc3]

i also wish for dps but this will most likely be a tank and given the FFXIV lore, it wont be a gunblade job but a magitek job.

Plus this time the main character is going "evil" (well ok dark) so the bad guys till now (the empire) will probably become allies opening way for a magitek-gunblade job with a huge garlean armor. AKA, a tank.

[SargentToughie]

For some of the comments in here, I can't help but notice that there's this underlying tone behind some of the posts that reek of "Tanks don't deserve any cool jobs". It was like this in Heavensward too. Hell, to this day, I still see people moan and whine about DRK being a Tank. That underlying tone really grates me frankly speaking. Why should DPS be the only one to get cool jobs? Tank and Healer mains exist in this game too you know. We deserve cool jobs too.

Absolute crazy talk. Tank mains do not exist, nor do they deserve to have any of the cool jobs that come out! Gunblade must be a DPS.

Now excuse me while I go complain in the DPS roles forums about queue times for the 195th time.

[InkstainedGwyn]

Its got a tank stance. Sooo

It's also got DPS skills, like Shiva's bow, and a red icon. How dare they give a DPS something protective? It's almost as if BLU is intended to be a versatile class that can shift to need!

And even if BLU was a tank, with its red icon (WAR must have stolen its blu icon) it's still limited, and I'd still demand we get an actual tank job that can be played in expansion content.

[kikix12]

Are you talking about Max level content or Leveling content because I am talking about Leveling content.

I'm talking about all content. There is such a disproportion of tanks and healers versus DPS that the changes to tank and healer queues will NOT be high. Many people that will play the new tank/healer job already play tank or healer job. And with the new Trust system, and main story experience I reckon that most queues will be made by leveling roulette anyway, which is overfilled with DPS by such a degree that there's a lot of DPS that can be counter-balanced before tanks/healers queue would suffer significantly.

Plus a slightly making fun of how certain Tank players just can't stand long queue times since most content they get instant or almost instant queue times.

Yes, I know. But alas...I do not imagine the queues suffering as much as you would think to even make it likely.

If they will?!...Really...I wouldn't particularly mind, keh. I'd have an easier time leveling a DPS, keh. I can always level tanks and healers once people flood the DPS again...I'm saying that as someone that mains healing and wants a Dancer which is...rather...likely to be the healer.

Just a quick question. Would everyone be ok with the Gunblade job being a DPS if we got a Tank and Healer as well?

I'd be fine with it only if it was another highly anticipated class. It's not just about a tank. It's about a class that players WANT to play, that players are strongly attracted to.

[Drakkaelus]

If you wanna go look at the jobs page on a final fantasy wiki I'm sure you could easily pick 3-5 jobs that would be tank jobs. Or could be made into tank jobs. I can think of 3 without looking, Viking, Sentinel, and Holy Knight.

And maybe for DPS jobs we could have Shinobi, Gunner and Dragon Knight.

For some of the comments in here, I can't help but notice that there's this underlying tone behind some of the posts that reek of "Tanks don't deserve any cool jobs". It was like this in Heavensward too. Hell, to this day, I still see people moan and whine about DRK being a Tank. That underlying tone really grates me frankly speaking. Why should DPS be the only one to get cool jobs? Tank and Healer mains exist in this game too you know. We deserve cool jobs too.

A lot of MMOs save the cool stuff exclusively for DPS. I think people got used to that and can't process healers and tanks having cool jobs of their own.