Luminary tools- a real achievement

[Kiote]

I don't know what you all are complaining about these are achievements you will get just from playing these classes as they are designed to be played. There is no grind here.

Gatherers who use there ability to gather will have to back back to these areas anyway because drops are location specific.

Crafter should be completing synth of all levels if they are actually making there parts and not just short cutting through the Markets.

Optimal synth for Speed/Difficulty/XP awards 500-600 xp.

3000 x 500 = 1,500,000 = Level 35-50

[Jennestia]

Thank dear SE for rewarding ppl who got their jobs to 50

So basically, we have to start over. Doing 6000 mining, 6000 quarry, 6000 loging, 6000 harvest, 6000 spearfish & 6000 fishing.

Thank Thank Thank SE .... you SE got "Sucky" Achievement unlocked ... grats /sigh

Here's the problem:

People are thinking it's a reward for people who have already done all of the work a year ago..that's not how achievements work and anyone who's been gaming since 2005 knows this.

You're rewarded for working on the achievement, this is why some of the are retroactive and some aren't even though they said history would be essentially separate from achievements, this is clearly one of those achievements that they designed with long-term in mind, and since this seems to be a confusing concept..

Long - Term: - A system designed with the game itself in mind -- As in someone new playing the game will be able to work towards the reward, there's always a possibility they can adjust later.

Short - Term: - Hand outs for everyone who did all of the work already and not have to touch a thing.

So yeah, while people who did the work/botted the work (We can't deny a lot of people did exploit and bot in 2010 in terms of gathering and crafting) will have to start over, new players and in-progress players will be still working on it.

[VenusDoom]

you just dont get it

the achievment is new, you have not earned it, just like i have not earned it

But apparently all those people who PL'd their battle classes to 50 before the achievements deserve their reward right away. They dont have to go re-kill 5,600 mobs of different levels, in all three zones, on every class, for a Paragon's Crown.

[Alicia_WM]

I don't know what you all are complaining about these are achievements you will get just from playing these classes as they are designed to be played. There is no grind here.

We already played these classes "as they are designed to be played." I don't know what's so difficult to understand. Imagine if they locked you out from getting the achievement for Lancer 50, but said you had to kill 1,000 enemies at rank 1 to 10, 10,000 at rank 11 to 20, etc. to "earn" it.

But no, you don't want to think about that. SE catered to your class, so it doesn't really matter, does it? There's no way they weren't really tracking the data for gathering and synthesis either.

[Jennestia]

But apparently all those people who PL'd their battle classes to 50 before the achievements deserve their reward right away. They dont have to go re-kill 5,600 mobs of different levels, in all three zones, on every class, for a Paragon's Crown.

This is another thing they shouldn't have happened.

[Belial]

unwilling? we've ALREADY done the work.......


free? are you serious about that?.... what you call "free" is hard work that we've already given over months and months of crafting and gathering....

we've already earned the right to this achievement
just like lots of other achievements people have already completed, like killing a certain amount of mobs, or going to all camps/aethers, you receive the achievement right now having already completed them, yet there is NO NEED to re-do them....

You've been paying for this game the whole time? Oh, you say you haven't... so... you've been choosing to play a game you know is undergoing extreme changes while playing for free? Well, guess this argument's over.

One year of free gameplay does not equate entitlement. Period.

[KingZeus]

you just dont get it

the achievment is new, you have not earned it, just like i have not earned it

actually you don't get it... we HAVE already earned it

there is an achievement for a crown for 100,000 kills i see people wearing. did they already earn it? according to your logic, no they have not

get it?

[KingZeus]

You've been paying for this game the whole time? Oh, you say you haven't... so... you've been choosing to play a game you know is undergoing extreme changes while playing for free? Well, guess this argument's over.

One year of free gameplay does not equate entitlement. Period.

uh, you completely missed the concept of "free" in that discussion
it has nothing to do with billing
your argument is invalid lol

[Belial]

uh, you completely missed the concept of "free" in that discussion
it has nothing to do with billing
your argument is invalid lol

Actually it's not. You've had a year of free gameplay, you are entitled to absolutely nothing. Whether it's achievements, rewards, whatever.

[KingZeus]

But apparently all those people who PL'd their battle classes to 50 before the achievements deserve their reward right away. They dont have to go re-kill 5,600 mobs of different levels, in all three zones, on every class, for a Paragon's Crown.

this is what these people don't understand.

the fact that their ARE achievements, like the CROWN people are wearing for killing tons of mobs in game right NOW, yet they are NOT required to re-do them

it's such a super simple concept to understand yet some of these people don't get it