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  1. #61
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    Lumivyory's Avatar
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    Mia Cott
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    The ears are something I have concerns about; specifically with hats, hoods and helmets. Will they stick out through hat/helmet holes, will they clip through them or worse, be confined in "ear socks?"
    Or even more worse, will they be lazy and just hide them completely (removing the one thing that would make them easy to tell what they are)?
    Oh god, I'm gonna flip something if I see ear socks on such big ears. I'd rather have them clip through than that x_x
    It would be cool if with a hat or some hats they'd just put their ears down like droopy ears or something like that.
    I still don't understand why some hats make Miqo'te ears disappear :/


    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I wish it would. Couldn't they just remove the shoes, or something simple?
    Oh yeah, that would be a nice solution.
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  2. #62
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    I hope what we get is closer to Fran than anything else. Though it seems I will be getting what i want, i still feel the art of the smaller Viera is just depicting children. Children should not be a playable option for a number of reasons.
    So what are Lalafel supposed to depict?

    I think we should get two clans, especislly if this is tge last race they ever add.
    One half of Viera being somewhere between Lala and Miqote heights would be ideal.
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  3. #63
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I wish it would. Couldn't they just remove the shoes, or something simple?
    I think players could get a lot of mileage out of SE making a number of shoes with differing varations as you want to see them (emphasis on the unique feet apperance), and then players may glamour over shoes that dont have the desired look.


    Or if the visual difference is significant a sort of headgear toggle but for your shoes lol. Both of those should work, I think.
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  4. #64
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    Dagget's Avatar
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    Dag Alvane
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    Seraph
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    Bard Lv 100
    Might be useful to monitor Nicole Fantl's iMDb entry - if they use her for Fran's English voice it may be listed there before 5.0 comes out. It's too early for them to be recording voiced cutscenes for 5.0 but would have been a nice tip-off if there had already been an entry related to that scene upcoming in 4.5. But it appears the 4.5 scene is either going to be text only, or another voice actor.
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  5. #65
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    Alacran's Avatar
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    We already have Lalafell and arguing they don't appear child like is complete BS. Also maybe your mind shouldn't jump to inappropriate things every time you see a child.

    But grats on getting Elezen with permanent bunny ears, will totally add to the race variety we have. /s
    In this game we have story lines that touch on murder, sexual assault, slavery, suicide, forced human experimentation, ect... My mind doesn't have to jump to inappropriate things every time i see a child to understand, the placing of anything remotely child like draws the ire and focus of many causing trouble for the developers and negative press for the game. However should you wish to focus on just those things, i would question what exactly it is your mind jumped to? There's a bigger picture to consider in terms of child representation in media and games, many of those have caused no end of scrutiny, censoring, and backlash over said practices.

    By the way Lalafell, like Taru Taru in FFXI were made with larger heads to and disproportionate limbs to clearly show the were not children but a fantasy race. They were designed with over accentuated neotenous features to give players a cute option with out having to make children playable to circumvent the issue.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    But are Feol really short? All we know about them is that they have blonde hair and shorter ears and are not pure-blood Viera (they're a Viera-Aegyl hybrid. They just didn't get the wings).

    Fun fact, this is also a Feol Viera. The Judge of Wings (she's that same Feol Viera wearing pink).
    That's actually a spoiler...
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    Last edited by Alacran; 12-22-2018 at 10:50 PM.

  7. #67
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    And again this stupid discussion about lalafell being like children. They are a freaking dwarf race for gods sake and people need to stop comparing them to children!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  8. #68
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    Raul Prower
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    WoW races can get away with different proportions because their engine, very few and simple armor piece models and art style make it easier, but even then, most footwear options for example look awful on races like Worgen and Draenei. Not to mention that they are essentially working with low poly Play-Doh models and bodypaint.

    All that wouldn't really fly in FFXIV, so they have to make compromises with race models.
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  9. #69
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    And again this stupid discussion about lalafell being like children. They are a freaking dwarf race for gods sake and people need to stop comparing them to children!
    Some people, Like the Australian government, are unable to discern the difference between "small adult" and "child".
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  10. #70
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    And again this stupid discussion about lalafell being like children. They are a freaking dwarf race for gods sake and people need to stop comparing them to children!
    I'm not sure who exactly you are responding to but I think Seraphor is saying that just because a design has a youthful look, doesn't mean it's a child. If not that is what I'd like to say. Lalafell have a youthful appearance but are obviously not children. I'm not sure what the intention is for the one Viera picture but they could easily be adults, and I think there should be two clans.
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