The Blue Mage Argument at a glance

[Seraphor]

You play 2 year old content on repeat?

Is that somehow worse than playing 2 month old content on repeat?

Yes, im currently levelling WAR, I'm up to level 45 and completing the hunting log.
I'm levelling RDM too and helping out my FC with mount farms for ARR and HW trials.
I tecently made it through Bahamut fir the first time and im still only half-way through Alexander
I'm gradually getting through the gathering logs, don't quite have the time or patience to invest in crafting though as you need to do all of them.

I've done Omega, I've done Suzaku, I've done Ridorana. They're no more interesting to me than Shiva or Thordan.

[Darkpaw]

You play 2 year old content on repeat?

I think substituting a level 70 raid for a solo only instance that you need most likely all of your 49 abilities (Which unlike past games you only have a CHANCE of gaining, once per encounter, unless there's another impatient BLU sniping your own skill.) to be proficient at--which means even that is not immediately accessible.

I mean compared to that we'll be able to do--oh I don't know.

All the main scenario quests, the level 70 24 man raid, the new eureka content, as well as still that same 2 year old content. Even a crafting class has a much wider breath of content than BLU on release, so it's weird to me that you act as if one solo instance is worth--everything else in the game, which I strongly disagree with, and saying "Well I don't play that stuff anyway" I beg the question then--what were you doing before BLU?

And what will you do when you inevitably get all 49 skills and beat all levels of the carnival?

The same thing everyone else does when they are done with the content that interests them? Find other content or play something else? Not every person in this game does the eureka grind, or the savage/ultimate grind/ or mount farms, or even the crafting and gathering stuff yet they still find things to do.. so.. yeah.

[MrKimper]

Is that somehow worse than playing 2 month old content on repeat?

Yes, im currently levelling WAR, I'm up to level 45 and completing the hunting log.
I'm levelling RDM too and helping out my FC with mount farms for ARR and HW trials.
I tecently made it through Bahamut fir the first time and im still only half-way through Alexander
I'm gradually getting through the gathering logs, don't quite have the time or patience to invest in crafting though as you need to do all of them.

I've done Omega, I've done Suzaku, I've done Ridorana. They're no more interesting to me than Shiva or Thordan.

Yes? 2 months is generally speaking a far shorter timespan than...2 years, especially when that 2 year old content is for all intents and purposes, incredibly easy(due to being nerf'd) lacks certain aspects of recent dungeons (No consistent dungeon music, the same battle track looping) or are incredibly tedious to go through (tam tara is tam tara is tam tara is tam tara)

Trying to equate 2 year old content to relevant 2 month old content is criminally wrong and biased at best. To each their own however, if you enjoy doing aurum vale, far be it for me to stop you from providing tank queue to whatever poor dps is trying to finish that.

The same thing everyone else does when they are done with the content that interests them? Find other content or play something else? Not every person in this game does the eureka grind, or the savage/ultimate grind/ or mount farms, or even the crafting and gathering stuff yet they still find things to do.. so.. yeah.

So essentially, you'll drop it and find no more use for it then?

[Darkpaw]

So essentially, you'll drop it and find no more use for it then?

Given that I log on every single day and still play for several hours, no I don't think so. I'll find random things to do that will keep me entertained. I know that's a shocking thought isn't it? Someone who actually finds different things to do?! THE HORROR!!! THE HORROR!!!!!!!!
Like seriously dude. C'mon now. I'm not an end game raider, I don't really do a ton of the crafting and gathering thing. I'm slowly levelling those up when I get super bored but that's about it. I'm not usually one for mount farming unless the mood strikes me, I take Eureka at a casual pace, yet I still log on every day and have fun doing whatever I decide to do. Maybe I'll run around playing in the gold saucer, maybe I'll go hunting, maybe I'll play around with various rotations or jobs, maybe I'll run maps with my fc, maybe I'll do maps on my own, Go work on sight seeing logs, or play triple triad.. Blue Mage will just be another one of those things I can do to keep myself entertained.. and hey let me tell you a little secret. Sometimes. I don't do anything and I just sit and chill out with my fc mates talking to them and having a good laugh.

[MrKimper]

Given that I log on every single day and still play for several hours, no I don't think so. I'll find random things to do that will keep me entertained. I know that's a shocking thought isn't it? Someone who actually finds different things to do?! THE HORROR!!! THE HORROR!!!!!!!!
Like seriously dude. C'mon now. I'm not an end game raider, I don't really do a ton of the crafting and gathering thing. I'm slowly levelling those up when I get super bored but that's about it. I'm not usually one for mount farming unless the mood strikes me, I take Eureka at a casual pace, yet I still log on every day and have fun doing whatever I decide to do. Maybe I'll run around playing in the gold saucer, maybe I'll go hunting, maybe I'll play around with various rotations or jobs, maybe I'll run maps with my fc, maybe I'll do maps on my own, Go work on sight seeing logs, or play triple triad.. Blue Mage will just be another one of those things I can do to keep myself entertained.. and hey let me tell you a little secret. Sometimes. I don't do anything and I just sit and chill out with my fc mates talking to them and having a good laugh.

There's nothing shocking about that statement and there's no reason to be pedantic about it, like I replied to the previous poster, if that's how you enjoy content that's fine and dandy with me. That still absolutely has nothing to do with BLU's longevity to anyone else, just because there are people still playing triple triad, does not a response to it's problems make.

[Mordoni]

OK, so how about waiting for New Content like everyone else does?

BLU isn't a stillborn, it can grow, just like the rest of the game has over time.

How many people thought 1.0 was the end of 14? Yet, here we are on the way to 5.0.

Diadems probably a good example of a worst case scenario: It's not dead, just comatose.

But thanks to Diadem, we now have Eureka.

Maybe BLU will be the Diadem of Jobs, maybe not.

But it's a first step, and that's what matters right?

[MrKimper]

OK, so how about waiting for New Content like everyone else does?

BLU isn't a stillborn, it can grow, just like the rest of the game has over time.

How many people thought 1.0 was the end of 14? Yet, here we are on the way to 5.0.

Diadems probably a good example of a worst case scenario: It's not dead, just comatose.

But thanks to Diadem, we now have Eureka.

Maybe BLU will be the Diadem of Jobs, maybe not.

But it's a first step, and that's what matters right?

In the same way that wanderer's minuet was just a "wait and see" thing that was NOTHING like expectations? I'm basing my opinion off of what has been shown thus far, BLU is not a job, it is side content and an insult to people that have waited for it be implemented into this game as well.

An actual job.

[Darkpaw]

In the same way that wanderer's minuet was just a "wait and see" thing that was NOTHING like expectations? I'm basing my opinion off of what has been shown thus far, BLU is not a job, it is side content and an insult to people that have waited for it be implemented into this game as well.

An actual job.

You mean people who apparently didn’t read various interviews where it had been said repeatedly that “We are not implementing blue mate. We have no plans to implement blue mage. Blue mage would be too difficult to balance properly in the game’s system we have and it wouldn’t feel at all like a blue mage.” And various other quotes like that where Naomi Yoshida literally told you that blue mage “as an actual job” was never going to happen.

[AC9Breaker]

And what will you do when you inevitably get all 49 skills and beat all levels of the carnival?

The same thing I do when I beat the current batch of content, get all the jobs I played geared up, Make whatever new housing item I want, finish my 99totem/mount farm. Take a break and play another game or do something else. I still keep my sub when Im playing Monster Hunter or Red Dead Redemption. It's not like I have to play this game 24/7. You act as if content drought/content wall is something that will be exclusive to Blue mage.

Trying to equate 2 year old content to relevant 2 month old content is criminally wrong and biased at best.

Coils of Bahamut is still the best endgame raid content that was made in this game. This is straight up facts B. In fact 2.0 content was so good they brought them back and updated them for 4.0, Ultimate Bahamut and Ultima Weapon Ultimate

Also its amusing how people keep talking about BLU as if it is strictly a solo class, as if you won't be able to join up pre-made parties and do other instanced stuff.

[MrKimper]

You mean people who apparently didn’t read various interviews where it had been said repeatedly that “We are not implementing blue mate. We have no plans to implement blue mage. Blue mage would be too difficult to balance properly in the game’s system we have and it wouldn’t feel at all like a blue mage.” And various other quotes like that where Naomi Yoshida literally told you that blue mage “as an actual job” was never going to happen.

Then I would have rather it not be implemented personally, there's nothing really to what you're saying besides "They weren't even going to add it to the game you should be happy they put it in" which I don't really know how to respond to? I would have either liked them to find a compromise like they did with RDM or not add it in, and that's not me being selfish that's me saying "I feel like putting resources elsewhere would be better".

Naomi.

edit:

You act as if content drought/content wall is something that will be exclusive to Blue mage.

It is though, what other class has a defined content ceiling locked at level 50 dungeons only? if you're fine hopping on and off and doing other things that's fine, I'm not arguing against that, my issue is that a Job should not inherently be more restricted than other jobs.