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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonleo View Post
    Honestly I rather wait until Microsoft gets a new console out before we get back into the "consoles are holding back the game for PC players" I believe there is a lot of rumors that the PS5 will be out within the next 2-3 years and by then Microsoft should have a new console out also.
    I don’t think the One X would hold the game back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    Think microsoft wanted there own Xbox only servers as well at one point. Dunno if that's still a thing though.
    i think that point was dropped but they were still unmoving on removing the second pay wall subscription on top of the ffxiv subscription at least that's what i recall from the last time it was brought up.

    with the PS5 and Xbox next coming soon (if rumours are to be believed) it may be waiting to be a flagship release for the new xbox.


    another thing to note as well is the very poor reception xbox gets in the east (in 2017 in the whole of a quarter of the year only 1 xbox one x was sold in japan) so that might be something to take note as well.
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    Last edited by DracotheDragon; 11-30-2018 at 08:28 AM.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracotheDragon View Post
    i think that point was dropped but they were still unmoving on removing the second pay wall subscription on top of the ffxiv subscription at least that's what i recall from the last time it was brought up.

    with the PS5 and Xbox next coming soon (if rumours are to be believed) it may be waiting to be a flagship release for the new xbox.


    another thing to note as well is the very poor reception xbox gets in the east (in 2017 in the whole of a quarter of the year only 1 xbox one x was sold in japan) so that might be something to take note as well.
    Despite sales in the east Square Enix seems to be heavily supporting the Xbox One with Final Fantasy, One X enhancements for the XIII trilogy and soon the denfitve version of KH3, not to mention the ports next year of FF7, 9, 10, and 12. I’m thinking SE is realizing that there is plenty of maket in the West to justify Xbox support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    A new platform could mean a huge influx of new players
    I doubt it was done for a problem that doesn't exist, but to help alleviate a known problem. (The issue being solo story instances being a massive bottleneck during the first couple of days of a newly released expansion and a massive influx of fair-weather players that are not normally present on the game.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Microsoft is. Microsoft will not remove the xbox live requirements to play FFXIV.

    Sony does not require PS+ to play FFXIV as well as several other MMOs outside of ESO

    This is blocking them from even talking about crossplay with Sony for FFXIV.
    This; SE doesn't want Xbox players to be paying a double subscription to play the game - one for Xbox Live and one for Final Fantasy XIV. The last time it was openly talked about from SE, this was the reason given.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    Judging from other games I'd say Sony. They don't like cross play with other consoles and were taking some flak by denying crossplay with Fortnite a while ago if I remember correct. People that had previously registered with PS4 were tied to the PC and PS4 and couldn't use the account on the Nintendo Switch version of the game forcing them to either abandon using it on the Switch or create a new account.
    actually Sony just started allowing cross-play so at this point its Xbox blocking because of the Xbox live restrictions plus they asked for an Xbox players only server more then once
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    Or have any issues been resolved and we could potentially see a Xbox release along with 5.0?
    Depends on what you want to believe as pretty much everyone is talking out of their butt when they say anything about crossplatform play.

    Sony is the one that doesn't want cross-play with other machines. See Fortnite.

    Microsoft wants everyone to have Xbox Live to play multiplayer, period. You used to need Xbox Live just to watch Netflix on the Xbox 360, and quite frankly, I see the point when you don't want players to pay twice, the disconnect is that a game like Fortnite is not a MMORPG with a persistant world. (At least not as far as I've seen)

    When you have a persistent world, you need to pay for access to that persistent world, because you're connecting to their servers. All Xbox Live, PSN, or Nintendo should be doing is passing the connection directly to SE and the friends-list sync needs to be done optionally. Because SE treats PS players as a separate license entirely, that's really a moot point. Where things get really annoying for FFXIV players is that they would have to pay for the game three times if they have an Xbox One, PS4 and a Windows system, where as with something like Fortnite, you only need to pay for it once.

    To which I think SE needs to realize that a player should not have to pay for the game three times if they have three consoles/pc's. The easiest solution is to simply have a "sync your xbox live" and "sync your PSN account" step that can be done via the web browser, and then you can use your PC service account with the Xbox or Playstation systems, and when the subscription ends/expires it no longer syncs with Microsoft and Sony.

    My opinion is that Microsoft has dropped the ball many times with Japan and will keep doing so, so there is no priority given to Japanese developers by Microsoft, and vice versa. Single Player games are a completely different thing. Sony meanwhile is a Japanese company and holds more sway with Japanese developers.

    The aim with things like PSN and Xbox Live is "SaaS" or "Netflix-like" service where you can play everything with just one subscription. Which is fine until a developer doesn't want to play ball, and thus you get locked out of games where developers *cough*EA*Ubisoft*cough* want you to pay extra, to access what is basically a platform-agnostic server that is walled off to only work with one console, to keep each platforms weaknesses from infecting the other. So on one hand yes if you pay for Xbox Live or PSN, you shouldn't have to pay again for FFXIV, but if you're going to only play FFXIV you shouldn't need Xbox Live either.

    There is no good resolution to this other than SE changing what they consider a subscription. If you pay for Xbox Live, but not XIV service itself, then you should only be able to create one character, on a server that is strictly bound to Xbox Live players operated by Microsoft (call this the Microsoft Data center.) If you pay for XIV service, but not Live, then you can play on any server BUT the Xbox server. If you pay for both, you can play on both. But anyone with any sense knows how pointless giving Microsoft their own server/datacenter is. Would Xbox support bring a million players to XIV? Probably not. It also goes against the design goals of FFXIV which is to allow anyone to play with anyone else, regardless of location and language.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 11-30-2018 at 04:39 PM.

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    I would consider a port to the Xbox One unlikely at this point. Sony just dropped the crossplay restrictions recently so any ports from SE would have started only a short time ago. For a game this huge that is unlikely. If they really do so (and only if MS drops the XBox Live requirements) then will happen for the next gen consoles. But I don't think so.
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    I don't think an XBOX version will ever come.
    They are in "talks" for far too long and it got nowhere.
    XIV on a new platform is major news worthy of a slide in the main presentation of XIV expansion features during the Fan Fest but this didn't happen.
    So I doubt it will ever happen unless both Sony and MS get their organic wastes together and lift the limitations concerning cross play.
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    Well we need to remember that FFXI had no issues being a cross-play MMO back in the day so we can't say that Sony is at fault on this occasion. During the XB360 days Microsoft were the ones that didn't want cross-play with other consoles yet was fine with FFXI being an exception. So clearly MS are capable of cooperating if they want to, but how long it'll take for them to change their mind who knows.
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    It could be Sony not wanting to cross plattform with Xbox but i believe they are better on that recently.
    It always in the past been Microsoft cause they require own hosted servers and Gold, Don't think they gone back on that yet if ever.
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