Blue Mage might actually be a good thing.

[Kallera]

This, I dunno why everyone thinks things need to be relevant or tied to endgame.

It is a fighting class, so it does need to be related to improving your character's ability to win fights in some fashion. Where are the hardest fights currently found? In endgame activities, possibly in Deep Dungeon if you are into that. How is the msq progressed, through DOW and DOM classes. a class that is by design hampered from partaking in these activities is going to raise some serious questions on whether it would be worth doing. A raider looking to main Blue Mage has nothing to look foward to. A deep dungeon soloist seeing Blue Mage as the way through role limitations screwing anyone other than red mage has nothing to look foward to. And these limitations are not brought on by the community or a matter of skillsets, but in place by the devs as a function of its design. Blue Mage can be the most amazing thing in the world, but it sounds like Hercule, doomed to never catch up to actual fighters.

[Duskane]

People keep pointing out raiding but im sure most would just like to have there first experience with Shadow bringers story with blue.

[Nariel]

This, I dunno why everyone thinks things need to be relevant or tied to endgame.

Its not just a bout raiding with blue mage but doing relevant content with blue mage, progressing with you friends with you blue mage, main your blue mage like you could main any other job, even a fisher have more relevant content to do than Blue mage and Fisher is far from being the most relevant of the gatherer after he it level max.

[whiskeybravo]

So let me ask you this... if you could do o12s with a level 1 character without ever having to do any lead up to it and then level to 70 would you still call it "end" game?

That's... Not a very good analogy. I'm not sure the game would allow you to take a level 1 character into o12s.. But even if it did, it doesn't change the definition of "end game" as we commonly use the term. It would just be an anomaly, and everyone knows there's no way a lv1 is legitimately beating o12s..

BLU can have it's own "end game", i.e. it's own stopping point, but that shouldn't be confused with the "end game" content of FFXIV. If anything I'm surprised no one has yet to mention normal modes being just as fitting for this definition as savage is.. I can't really disagree with that, but again, having different difficulty levels of "end game" doesn't change it's definition. As an aside, I wouldn't classify UCOB or UWU as "end game" necessarily, mainly since it's based on old end game content, it's really just an optional challenge.

[Soupa]

Its not just a bout raiding with blue mage but doing relevant content with blue mage, progressing with you friends with you blue mage, main your blue mage like you could main any other job, even a fisher have more relevant content to do than Blue mage and Fisher is far from being the most relevant of the gatherer after he it level max.

Play a different job then, sometimes the content just isent for you.

[Nariel]

Play a different job then, sometimes the content just isent for you.

Thats exactly where the problem is, nobody will be able to main BLU even if they waited for it for years. I don't personally care about blue wasn't planning to do anything else than level it up for the sake of it, but its just me and my taste, I'm far more curious about dancer and still I'm disapointed that playing blue mage in usefull content is impossible for no valid reason whatsoever.

"Want to main blue mage ? Too bad, main something else cause BLu is a mini-game not a job"

You know what is nice with your mindset ? "Yeah now you have to pay real money to enter Seiryu extreme. Not happy ? Just play another primal. After all sometime some content isn't just for you"

[Arkdra]

"Want to main blue mage ? Too bad, main something else cause BLu is a mini-game not a job"

This minigame is conceptually so much more interesting than another job to level and ignore.

[Nariel]

This minigame is conceptually so much more interesting than another job to level and ignore.

Dunno, some pleople would probably loved play it in every content the game as to offer far more than only in a mini-game finished in a month or so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nobody even ask for the mask carnival to not be implented, why not have both ?

[whiskeybravo]

This minigame is conceptually so much more interesting than another job to level and ignore.

I don't think anyone has debated about whether or not it's interesting.. But the satisfaction from minigames is fleeting, about the only one that's had staying power in this game so far is Triple Triad. Most of the time it ends up being 99% dead content for people once the rewards have been obtained. They could've let BLU escape this fate, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it all turns out.

[Sigma-Astra]

This minigame is conceptually so much more interesting than another job to level and ignore.

....And won't people ignore this minigame once they're through with it? I mean, I'm not sure how that's conceptually much more interesting when what you argue can be done with Blue Mage.

Hell, look at Gold Saucer. If that was so much more conceptually interesting, than don't you think that place would be packed every day with people screaming "I love the Gold Saucer! I'm there everyday!"

Yea, no one says that about minigames at the Gold Saucer, except Yuffie maybe.