GC items Fail = SE Fail

[TheVedis]

yes something will always be better. the problem is only a select group of people can even get it. if it was a NM drop or something crafted atleast then it would be fair. this is unbalanced.

so when they put the best shield in your guild in the future, will this be ok?

cuz something tells me you wont say a damn thing when that happens

this isnt about fair, its about you

[ssppiikkeeyy]

SE said they would balance all the items out in the GC's just got to wait, maybe in the next update you're GC will get it's version of the shiled or what ever, there really is no need to lose the head like. stay cam this isnt WoW it's FFXIV!

[LicontAshontear]

I am calm. I can be upset over something and voice my opinion. And no you are right, if the shield was in my GC I would not be here, but then someone else would be here posting what I am posting. The fact of the matter is there are currently 2 sides to the debate.

1: GC's are unbalanced

2: just wait SE will fix it

the problem is we shouldnt have to wait for SE to fix it. They should not break things in the first place.

[Req]

Which is exactly what you still do, you choose the GC you want to choose given what they stand for -- Even with certain gear being in certain places there's still zero benefit over one another.

Are you getting 2,000 seals per quest joining Twin Adder instead of Immortal Flames?

That's what you call an advantage given design -- Items that will more than likely be obsoleted in 2 months isn't an advantage.

The whole point of an RPG is character progression. That is what it is at its core. With MMOs character progression comes through patches. These patches normally involve adding gear, abilities, and level cap increases that allow your character to progress further in the game. For the next 2 months at bare minimum there are items that are best or near best in slot that are unobtainable by a large number of people, not because they aren't willing to put forth the effort, but because they joined the grand company they wanted and not the one that got the item they wanted. 2-3 months ago I was spamming dzhamel darkhold on a near constant basis on my archer doing 1000 damage per arrow with multishot. Remember when Darkhold and Archer were relevant? Yeah it was 2-3 months ago. If you are under the mentality that "it doesn't matter it will be obsolete eventually anyways" is completely irrelevant to an argument when you are talking about an MMO because it simply shows that the person saying it has no business playing an MMO in the first place.

[LicontAshontear]

The whole point of an RPG is character progression. That is what it is at its core. With MMOs character progression comes through patches. These patches normally involve adding gear, abilities, and level cap increases that allow your character to progress further in the game. For the next 2 months at bare minimum there are items that are best or near best in slot that are unobtainable by a large number of people, not because they aren't willing to put forth the effort, but because they joined the grand company they wanted and not the one that got the item they wanted. 2-3 months ago I was spamming dzhamel darkhold on a near constant basis on my archer doing 1000 damage per arrow with multishot. Remember when Darkhold and Archer were relevant? Yeah it was 2-3 months ago. If you are under the mentality that "it doesn't matter it will be obsolete eventually anyways" is completely irrelevant to an argument when you are talking about an MMO because it simply shows that the person saying it has no business playing an MMO in the first place.

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[TheVedis]

The whole point of an RPG is character progression. That is what it is at its core. With MMOs character progression comes through patches. These patches normally involve adding gear, abilities, and level cap increases that allow your character to progress further in the game. For the next 2 months at bare minimum there are items that are best or near best in slot that are unobtainable by a large number of people, not because they aren't willing to put forth the effort, but because they joined the grand company they wanted and not the one that got the item they wanted. 2-3 months ago I was spamming dzhamel darkhold on a near constant basis on my archer doing 1000 damage per arrow with multishot. Remember when Darkhold and Archer were relevant? Yeah it was 2-3 months ago. If you are under the mentality that "it doesn't matter it will be obsolete eventually anyways" is completely irrelevant to an argument when you are talking about an MMO because it simply shows that the person saying it has no business playing an MMO in the first place.

you think its relevant now

but what happens when what company has the best gear changes next patch
then the patch after
and so on and so forth

its an endless cycle, each guild can NOT have the same exact gear or else you have no incentive to choose one over the other


so this patch lets say uldah has the shield thats best
next patch its grid
then its uldah again
then limsa

and so on, its not unfair to any 1 group in specific, its just that during any specific timeframe the best item for each slot will be obtainable from somewhere different

everyone will have their best in slots during those times obtainable and during other times itl be another countries turn

[Nakiamiie]

I think some players are just finding every possible reason to say this game is flawed. Why? Maybe because it helps convincing them they shouldn't pay for this game yet, maybe it also supports the opinion uninformed persons have about FFXIV (so they don't feel rejected), maybe because they are egotistical and only think about their own character (in world shaped by many). Or, simply because they don't understand the direction developers are going with the game and can only compare it with how they want their character to develop.
Regardless, it would be great if we could all (myself included) open our eyes to the big picture of FFXIV and question honestly when we don't understand the direction the game is going.

[Lakefingers]

Getting butthurt over another GC getting gear that is likely only slightly better is unbelievably lame. It's only your preference that each GC always has perfectly even gear, I'm sure many others feel differently as do I.

[Jennestia]

If you are under the mentality that "it doesn't matter it will be obsolete eventually anyways" is completely irrelevant to an argument when you are talking about an MMO because it simply shows that the person saying it has no business playing an MMO in the first place.

..Which is exactly what most modern MMOs have been practicing for the past few years. There's still no advantage unless you can prove that Immortal Flames for example gives you complete game changing advantage over Maelstrom for example -- I want to see a quest from Immortal flames that will progress your character further than if you join Maelstrom, I also want to see how joining Maelstrom or Twin Adder will progress you slower.

That's unbalance. Items that will be obsoleted isn't unbalancing anything.

[darkstarpoet1]

ya know, i do understand that the best gear is not needed to complete the current content. i can see where the op is coming from though. the goal of each character on the game is to get the best possible item in every spot they can. sure i don't need that felt robe(red) +3 with 5 healing hands equipped on it, but that won't stop me from trying to get it.

i don't think the issue is that the item is in another city. the problem is they are trying to get the best gear for the gear setup and tanking style he prefers to use and due to being part of one company instead of another it is impossible. in every mmo i have touched people are always trying to get the best gear. if they weren't then items like relics would have never had a reason to be put in game. they were by far the best items, but they took a long time to get. they were hard to get, but with the companies those certain items are impossible.

did the op go too far on his rant? yes, because we know each company will get stuff in the future. the thing is the future could be after this patch or it could be a year down the road and nobody knows which.