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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akonyl View Post
    Making a new data center is fine, but it should really be done with new servers. Make Shadowbringers launch servers, give large incentives for players to roll there. People who want to can transfer, the new people SE is expecting with the expanding playerbase (the whole reason they're doing this) can start there, it will take longer for it to become populated but over time, if the player base is expanding as much as they expect it to, it'll fill out to be more in line with other datacenters.

    Doing this split after cross-realm duty finder an expansion ago is one thing, but considering that SE literally just gave us cross-realm linkshells maybe two patches ago, means that this was either a really short-sighted decision they thought up after CWLS, or maybe they should have mentioned the incoming tear-apart before putting in even more tools to form cross-realm friendships/networks/etc with.
    They've already tried this last expansion for about a year. (Preferred servers) I'm guessing not enough people are leaving.

    Right now Balmung is still locked, but when the expansion comes out there is going to be a surge of people coming back to the game already on the servers being moved that aren't being counted in the "active player" graphs being shared right now so they are trying to mitigate the "no instances" spamming NPC nonsense that even happened again for a little while for the Omega story instance when the player base is missing a lot of active characters from the SB peak.

    So they waited about 2 years to see if the player base would fix it themselves and I guess it's not satisfactory.

    Adding a new datacenter and moving existing servers adds more instances at least and distributes the load for the expansion influx.

    If they go through with it, hopefully they do this somewhere during the couple month dead period before the expansion and not on 4.5 launch so people get the full 6 months for the raid tier before having to decide.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 11-19-2018 at 07:00 AM.

  2. #22
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    Aya Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    They've already tried this last expansion for 2 years. (Preferred servers) I'm guessing not enough people are leaving.

    Right now Balmung is still locked, but when the expansion comes out there is going to be a surge of people coming back to the game already on the servers being moved that aren't being counted in the "active player" graphs being shared right now so they are trying to mitigate the "no instances" spamming NPC nonsense that even happened again for a little while for the Omega story instance when the player base is missing a lot of active characters from the SB peak.

    So they waited about 2 years to see if the player base would fix it themselves and I guess it's not satisfactory.
    SE is to blame for that because of the housing system -.-
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  3. #23
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    SE is to blame for that because of the housing system -.-
    And yet, is it not possible that the ishgard housing that is coming will be instanced due to the way its being added?

    We still have what, 2 more fanfests to get more info before this all goes through right?

    I think this is one thing being missed in all the outrage. The housing crisis may be solved with the expansion.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 11-19-2018 at 07:06 AM.

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    How, it's not like SE is ADDING more wards yet, or at least, they haven't said they are. If anything, the housing crisis will simply continue as it has since it was released, only difference is, now you'll have a large displaced population that once had, and will be unable to get back. You want to solve the housing problems? How about ending personal housing in the wards and actually give people instanced housing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    How, it's not like SE is ADDING more wards yet, or at least, they haven't said they are. If anything, the housing crisis will simply continue as it has since it was released, only difference is, now you'll have a large displaced population that once had, and will be unable to get back. You want to solve the housing problems? How about ending personal housing in the wards and actually give people instanced housing?
    you didnt read what i wrote did you?

    They mentioned fixing up ishgard in the keynote, and people wanting to live there. Presumably, after being repaired, you would be able to access housing. but since the repair is done by players, it would be somewhat difficult to add wards as the player complete the repair, no?

    Aka, adding instanced housing tied to crafter and gatherer end game content.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 11-19-2018 at 07:38 AM.

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    TPeople have a weird fear of RP’ers, it’s honestly silly. No one is going to force you into their RP, and the vast majority of the people that do RP do it in town only, I’ve never encountered it in battle content.
    Well it does happen and if you are a non rp'er its annoying as all get out. There have been multiple instances over the years where ppl think its ok to RP in both 4 man and alliance dungeons or worse.... other ppls houses. I had to lock my house down and remove any outdoor furniture they could sit on, bath in or climb on to keep my RP neighbors out of it. They were annoying as it was talking in open chat about their pretend day while in my house but once I logged in and found 2 of them ERPing in my house, I was done. And the GMs wouldn't do anything, just told me to lock it.

    I was honestly dreading having Balmung get access to Sarg and was relieved when I saw they were going to be on a different DC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    that is not free gil, that is literally, you lost 1 million dollars, have a penny.
    If you want to be literal its actually, spent 20m gil? here have 23m. So, yes 3m gil free.

    You can literally remove almost all your furniture, load up your retainers and make 3m gil free. But if your house is more important than loosing the ability to play with a few friends who are already on a different server and having the ability to meet thousands of new friends than building lasting relationships in an mmo is not your priority anyway.

    Overall this is for the greater good of the game and not to many ppl are going to suffer. They are even doing a lot more than they should to compensate. However we all know the few that do suffer are going to be amazingly loud about it because they, as an individual, are more important than the health of the game they claim to love so very much.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Part of the fun of an MMO is making friends. And sure, some people switch servers or quit the game. But most of us have numerous linkshells, and an FC, and many of us have cross-server friends or raid groups.

    But this server shuffle is legitimately defeating the entire point of playing a social game. Having friends.

    Almost anyone switching data centers is going to have to choose some friends over others. Or lose out on seeing familiar faces they have seen for years.

    Additionally, many people have spent months getting a house. And getting your money back is not helpful, when you likely won't be able to land a house on another server, because of a poorly designed housing system.

    No one wins with this server reshuffle.
    And no one asked for this.

    Many people will likely lose any motivation to play this game once their social circles get split up.

    Please stop this server disaster from happening.



    I am, Looking forward to it.
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  8. #28
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    This whole system doesn't make sense to me.

    Their intent was to "make it easier for friends to get together", yet as has been stated, they're cutting off several friends from one another by shuffling the servers between data centers.

    I really cannot see any good coming out of this change, since it's also going screw up the economy and the hunt community.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    This whole system doesn't make sense to me.

    Their intent was to "make it easier for friends to get together", yet as has been stated, they're cutting off several friends from one another by shuffling the servers between data centers.

    I really cannot see any good coming out of this change, since it's also going screw up the economy and the hunt community.
    How the hell is this going to screw up the economy, more competition is good for everyone.
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    I'm actually a bit worried how the duty finder/party finder will be affected by this shuffle. I'm on Balmung, have been since 1.0 (when it was Besaid before the merge), and I've loved being on the most populated server/data center. Queues are good and groups are a plenty. How will it be on Crystal? I'm just a bit worried that's all. Transferring isn't really an option either since I have a house and i love my plot and that's not guaranteed if I transfer. I also have a FC and friends that I would be leaving if they did or didn't decide to transfer since they could go anywhere.
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