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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    And from what I have heard, a lot of those raiders are considering leaving and going back to Aether where the majority of the raid community is.



    Thank you for proving you don’t actually have an argument. You wouldn’t have to devolve into cheap-shot ad hominem if you did.
    My point wasn't to make a cheap shot, but to prove a point. You don't have to be a big shot raider surrounded by other big shot raiders to have a good time and clear content (in this case raids). Everyone jumping ship is just going to cause the same issues from before, except now even RP'ers are apparently jumping ship. So now we have a full datacenter because no one wants to put forth any effort into making new friends or fostering new groups.

    I'm all for people moving to stick with friends, and it sucks for those groups being broken up, but to be this outraged and have this kind of reaction to it is simply hilarious to me.


    I'm also probably stirring the pot more than i intent to, im bad at wording things correctly. I will end my comments here.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 11-18-2018 at 11:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    My point wasn't to make a cheap shot, but to prove a point. You don't have to be a big shot raider surrounded by other big shot raiders to have a good time and clear content (in this case raids).
    You don’t make a comment like that if you aren’t trying to make a cheap shot. Why call someone a “big-shot Ultimate raider” when you can simply say “I know that you enjoy Ultimate raids” if you weren’t trying to make a jab at someone?

    Also, see my addition:

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Raiding with individuals who do not share your same goals and level of skill are a recipe for disaster. You wouldn’t throw softcore raiders into a group of hardcore raiders, just like you wouldn’t throw a hardcore raider into a group of softcore. The goals are not the same, and eventually all the contention and frustration over it will bubble over and result in members leaving and/or statics breaking.
    Anyone who would want to do something like the Ultimate raids or do speedkills/optimization runs cannot achieve that goal if they are raiding with people who do not share that goals.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 11-18-2018 at 11:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    My point wasn't to make a cheap shot, but to prove a point. You don't have to be a big shot raider surrounded by other big shot raiders to have a good time and clear content (in this case raids). Everyone jumping ship is just going to cause the same issues from before, except now even RP'ers are apparently jumping ship. So now we have a full datacenter because no one wants to put forth any effort into making new friends or fostering new groups.
    I have an existing friend circle, static and housing. Why is it mine or anyone's responsibly to make new friends? What a silly thing to say. People don't want to lose their existing communities nor should they. Hence why they're outraged. If you had ties, maybe you'd appreciate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I have an existing friend circle, static and housing. Why is it mine or anyone's responsibly to make new friends? What a silly thing to say. People don't want to lose their existing communities nor should they. Hence why they're outraged. If you had ties, maybe you'd appreciate that.
    I'm losing my old static, as well as some old friends. But it is what it is. Its happened every time I moved states too, but that's how things go. I simply just stopped being outraged over things like this a long time ago, as it was bad for my health.

    I picked the group of friends i was closest to back when they allowed free transfers off Balmung, and moved with them. It is the same case here.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 11-18-2018 at 11:20 AM.