Is my story lore-friendly?

[Princess_Cassandra]

If Fleurent is a noble, his name should probably be Fleurent de Gisoreux.

You are right, thanks for the correction. I'll make some edits right away.

It sounds improbable that - in cramped Ishgard and amongst gossiping nobles - he could keep two people a complete secret. Even more so when they're an 'exotic' foreign race that will stand out. Rumours will certainly spread.

I'm thinking his land would be located elsewhere in Coerthas, not in the cramped city itself.

I haven't played the dark knight quests, so that description doesn't tell me much - and I'm not really sure what you're meaning by "what Haurchefant does" either. What happened? What did he do? It feels like too much of a handwave - "this really important thing happened but I haven't worked out what it was".

Sorry if this came across as a hand wave. I want to rewrite everything in much greater length and detail soon. I used Haurchefant as an example because he directly goes against the authority of an inquisitor, even openly drawing his sword on temple knights to stand up for what he believed in (Francel's innocence). I used Dark Knights as reference because they often clash with Temple Knights and for similar reasons too. I want Fluerent to be put into a comparable situation but I just do not know the how or the why yet. It's an important moment that I need to get right.

Also, from what I can get out of the lorebook, it sounds like Fleurent would be facing trial by combat for [whatever it was], so you could maybe work that into his redemption. (Also have a look at the MCH Lv50-60 quests, where the guild basically got accused of trying to start a revolution, and had to undergo trial by combat against a dragon...)

That is very interesting! I will investigate these quest and see what I can take from them.

And what are these particular ideals and concept of justice that he's passing on to Lana? Because that's a big part of understanding how your character is going to think and act.

Indeed, this is a crucial part of my character and like Fluerent's predicament, I want to put more thought into it.

(Also a nitpick from your linked post on the other site: the Ishgard expansion is titled "Heavensward", ie. 'towards the heavens', not "Heaven Sword".)

House Fortemps (no second 't' in the spelling) is most likely still employing foreigners. At least, there's no indication that Artoirel would change it.

Ack, I really shouldn't be misspelling these two, especially not Fortemps. It shall not happen again!

There's also the Lv50-60 miner quests where you're working with a group of mercenaries hired by the vaguely-defined "Count Fortemps" - by the way time usually works in the game, we probably should assume that's Edmont even if you're doing the quests post-Heavensward, but nevertheless it's written so it could work regardless of who is count at the time.

That's a fine example of Ishgardians employing outsiders, awesome.

House Haillenarte also seems to be open to employing foreigners, even before the end of Heavensward.

Most prominently (though not so useful for indicating the overall stance of the house) Stephanivien hired a Lominsan to work for the machinists' guild as marksmanship instructor.

Some levequest descriptions indicate that there is an Ul'dahn pugilist training knights "as part of a military arts exchange facilitated by House Haillenarte".

And they are also in charge of the Diadem, which is (more-or-less theoretically at this point) specifically recruiting adventurers post-Heavensward.

Emmanellain and Laniaitte also turn up in the start-of-Stormblood Lv60 weaver quest in Ul'dah, apparently specifically to show off the High House costumes, so presumably trying to promote foreign trade.

And the lorebook profile for the Count de Durendaire is prettymuch all about his stance on foreigners - originally sharing Edmont's "desire to open Ishgard's borders and welcome foreign influences", but he became more conservative after the loss of his son. Now with the shifting situation in Ishgard he is supporting Aymeric "in a pragmatic bid to retain influence and preserve the status quo".

Thanks for the helpful information, I had no idea there were military arts exchanges like that. I'll definitely investigate this Diadem and I look forward to meeting Aymeric whom i hear good things about.

Overall I greatly appreciate the informative post, cheers. I will try to post greater details in the future!

[Iscah]

Thanks for the helpful information, I had no idea there were military arts exchanges like that. I'll definitely investigate this Diadem and I look forward to meeting Aymeric whom i hear good things about.

Ohhh - I hadn't realised you aren't actually up to Heavensward at all yet.

There's no sign of the military arts exchange going on beyond those levequest descriptions.

And there's not too much to investigate about the Diadem - I don't think there's any story linked to it. I only got in once and there were lots of FATEs but nothing to specifically do, although I was there for the "gathering" missions rather than the "battle" missions. Anyway, once you'll get to Ishgard you'll see there are a few NPCs at the airship landing, though you can't do anything until you've cleared the Heavensward MSQ. The guy in charge is Aurvael de Haillenarte, second son of the count and one of Francel's older brothers. (Quest script for unlocking access: here)

You'll probably need to organise a trip with FC members if you want to get in, as people don't normally queue for it.



Also, once you get to Ishgard, I guess you'll want to pick up the job quests there - but I'd recommend leaving AST for the moment. I don't know if you've been looking through the discussions here for Ishgard lore, but I'd posted about inconsistencies in the quest timeline - and now we have an official response that some critical facts were mistranslated, and should be fixed in patch 4.5. So it's a good idea to wait until then so you get the corrected version of the story. (Not relevant to your story concept, but just for pursuing Ishgardian lore in general.)

Sorry if this came across as a hand wave. I want to rewrite everything in much greater length and detail soon. I used Haurchefant as an example because he directly goes against the authority of an inquisitor, even openly drawing his sword on temple knights to stand up for what he believed in (Francel's innocence). I used Dark Knights as reference because they often clash with Temple Knights and for similar reasons too. I want Fleurent to be put into a comparable situation but I just do not know the how or the why yet. It's an important moment that I need to get right.

If it's just a placeholder, that's okay then - it just didn't sound like you're still working on it. (I'll admit my own character concepts are in a similar state!)

[Princess_Cassandra]

There's no sign of the military arts exchange going on beyond those levequest descriptions.

And there's not too much to investigate about the Diadem - I don't think there's any story linked to it. I only got in once and there were lots of FATEs but nothing to specifically do, although I was there for the "gathering" missions rather than the "battle" missions. Anyway, once you'll get to Ishgard you'll see there are a few NPCs at the airship landing, though you can't do anything until you've cleared the Heavensward MSQ. The guy in charge is Aurvael de Haillenarte, second son of the count and one of Francel's older brothers. (Quest script for unlocking access: here)

You'll probably need to organise a trip with FC members if you want to get in, as people don't normally queue for it.

Ahh ok, oh well. At least I can still use these parts as evidence of Ishgard working with foreigners.

Also, once you get to Ishgard, I guess you'll want to pick up the job quests there - but I'd recommend leaving AST for the moment. I don't know if you've been looking through the discussions here for Ishgard lore, but I'd posted about inconsistencies in the quest timeline - and now we have an official response that some critical facts were mistranslated, and should be fixed in patch 4.5. So it's a good idea to wait until then so you get the corrected version of the story. (Not relevant to your story concept, but just for pursuing Ishgardian lore in general.)

Ah ok interesting, thank you for the fair warning and I am pleased to hear this is going to get sorted out soon!

If it's just a placeholder, that's okay then - it just didn't sound like you're still working on it. (I'll admit my own character concepts are in a similar state!)

Oh yeah, it is certainly a place holder for now. I want to work on it in earnest after i reach level 60 and don my proper lvl 60 Ishgard esque glamour that my friends helped me create.

With the issues you first mentioned dealt with, does everything else in my concept look acceptable to you?