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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Eureka Weapons Will Be The Undisputed Strongest Weapons of All Time

    I just caught wind of how the stats in the i385 weapons work. Apparently, Eureka weapons have a substat limit of 1,000. It can be shared through many stats or lumped all into one stat. You can theoretically have a BRD bow with 500 Crit and 500 Direct Hit. Or a BLM weapon with 200 Critical Hit and 800 Spell Speed.

    Unless they make 1,000 the limit and it won't increase after more upgrades, they will easily surpass raid weapons by next upgrade. I hear some already surpass them for some jobs!

    Example from Reddit:


    That's only 710/1000 substat. So it has more potential. But that's the concept.

    Also Reddit:
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 11-10-2018 at 10:49 PM.

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    The thing I'm wondering is just how bad the chances of getting an ideal weapon are.
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    I think you mean until the next expansion.

    You know, they could make the Eureka weapon have 2000 Crit, still not doing Pagos.
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor View Post
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    I think you mean until the next expansion.

    You know, they could make the Eureka weapon have 2000 Crit, still not doing Pagos.
    Sure.. I'm a little hyper lol. Too late to change the title. Still strong though
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    Too bad 5.x will be out by the time you get anything that good, by which point it will be crap.
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    Sure, for the 2 months since its release until 5.0.

    Anyway, they're really going too far with rng. Just a few more pyros crystals until my weapon, but I'll only use it for glamour. No way I'm farming for lights for a chance to have a good roll.
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    Wasn't there something along the lines of "these weapons will only be this powerful in eureka"? Because 700+ statpoints into one substat seems too ridiculous to be a real thing and entirely craps on the stat optimization of theorycrafters.

    There got to be a plausible limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Wasn't there something along the lines of "these weapons will only be this powerful in eureka"? Because 700+ statpoints into one substat seems too ridiculous to be a real thing and entirely craps on the stat optimization of theorycrafters.

    There got to be a plausible limit.
    This is really not a big deal until these weapons get upgraded to ilvl 400. Right now omega weapons are still better because of the WD advantage. When the relic will actually become more powerful than the omega weapon, speedrunners will be already done with fflogs and Kihra will probably just divide the rankings between before and after op relic weapon. Relic will be, just like before, a nice and shiny stick.
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    Last edited by Lastelli; 11-11-2018 at 12:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    they will easily surpass raid weapons by next upgrade.
    This is useful for what?

    Maybe speedkills.

    But there will be no new raid tier or ultimate this xpac.

    And after this you will exchange it before hitting lvl 80.
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    Didn't people say this about the i280 Coven weapons? We all know how those were received.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    This is really not a big deal until these weapons get upgraded to ilvl 400. Right now omega weapons are still better because of the WD advantage. When the relic will actually become more powerful than the omega weapon, speedrunners will be already done with fflogs and Kihra will probably just divide the rankings between before and after op relic weapon. Relic will be, just like before, a nice and shiny stick.
    The only job that would prefer this weapon over the Omega weapon would be BRD - and you'd have to have as much critical hit as possible on it. But they would be the only job, and the amount of rerolling to get a super high Crit bow wouldn't be worth it unless you had amazing amounts of luck, in my opinion.

    Considering I'm almost full BiS save for an earring, my weapon, and my body piece, it wouldn't be worth it to me to slog through Pagos, slog through Pyros, and then constantly reroll for a decent bow. I'll have my BiS and my pretty logs far sooner.
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