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  1. #51
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    Antonio_Xul's Avatar
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 95
    Although I don't hate or like Pagos, I am at least going to get my 1st relic using this method. I really didn't like the ARR & HW relic quest. Eureka at least has kept me going for some reason, even though I do it sparingly, so I don't get burned out. I only go inside at least once a week and do all I can in one go, and then take a break and do other stuff, then go in next week. I keep my sanity this way.
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  2. #52
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    Annabel Ashcroft
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 90

    Yes, I like it.

    I am one of those that also enjoy Eureka. I started after the logs came out and both were made easier. I like the danger and the whole grouping thing. I got to know many people there since you tended to see the same names a lot of the time. People think I am crazy for liking it, but hey, to each their own.

    Anemos was more fun than Pagos, but Pagos got better once I hit 30 and could really start to get around and even more so at 32. But yeah, if you are under 30, DON'T bother with Pagos, it's just too dangerous and annoying. Plus you will almost never get any of the Fates unless you camp at the first crystal.

    Also, just grinding the levels out to 35 has gotten me a lot for the Pagos weapon. 5 ice, 400 Pagos crystals, and 20 light crystals. The last 100 PC's will get my light even closer. I figure I will probably have to light grind for about 8-9 of them to get to 31.
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  3. #53
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wissp View Post
    Anemos was more fun than Pagos, but Pagos got better once I hit 30 and could really start to get around and even more so at 32. But yeah, if you are under 30, DON'T bother with Pagos, it's just too dangerous and annoying. Plus you will almost never get any of the Fates unless you camp at the first crystal.
    To me that's one major flaw among many. People shouldn't have to grind in Anemos past lvl 20 just so they can get around Pagos. That's just...wrong. I realize that this was a "fix" with the challenge log but it's still another thing wrong with Pagos.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 10-22-2018 at 03:21 PM.

  4. #54
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    Elise Hamilton
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lubu_Mykono View Post
    I stopped playing Eureka 2 days in. I.m going to wait until its as nerfed as possible and get the Anemos weapons, thats it.
    The grind is so bad it puts BDO to shame
    Then you never played BDO xD. lvl 61-62, was lvl 61 for 8 months, never went past 50%.

    Eureka Pagos, was lvl 35 in 2 weeks xD.
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  5. #55
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    Luin Vereist
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I like that I can independently progress something, even if it's as worthless as a relic.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    People shouldn't have to grind in Anemos past lvl 20 just so they can get around Pagos.
    This was in Anemos too, assuming you meant literally 'getting around'.

    Most of the criticism around Pagos centers around the idea that there should be a train. Anemos was just as frustrating to navigate, but you always had 100 other players and a guaranteed raise.

    The systems in Pagos are an improvement over Anemos in every way.
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    But I don't like that the jump from Anemos>Pagos felt like it was all stuff that could have been done in a hotfix, and am concerned that's how Pyros will work. Too little too late. In total it didn't feel like it warranted a new zone and several months of development.

    And ultimately, it still feels as though there's no depth to anything in Eureka. It's still just killing monsters. Happy bunny? It's a 'treasure map', but you're still just killing. Mutations, adaptations, you're still just killing monsters.
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    Last edited by Luin; 10-22-2018 at 05:06 PM.

  6. #56
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 95
    The majority of this game is killing monsters. Fates, dungeons, raids, maps, deep dungeon, relics, hunts, trials, beast quests, etc. is killing monsters.
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    Last edited by Antonio_Xul; 10-22-2018 at 07:15 PM.

  7. #57
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    Fuyuki Gunji
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    Louisoix
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I actually like Pagos in a very specific situation:
    When I go in with some FC members/friends and there is pretty much no one else in the instance, preferably in a new one.
    Being able to split up in small groups of 2-3 and killing different groups of monsters to work on spawning different NMs at the same time feels a lot more enjoyable.
    Especially when you now that if a fate spawn on the other side of the map the rest of the gang will wait for you to join them. Doing those fate bosses with 8-16 people makes them a lot more interesting too.
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  8. #58
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    Genz Kawakami
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    Louisoix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Enjoying eureka is accidental (meeting nice people, for example) and doesn't matter much. Eureka is a waste of energy that shouldn't be made again (empty area, boring fights, anecdotal plot, etc.)
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    Last edited by Genz; 10-23-2018 at 02:03 AM.

  9. #59
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    Hiroes Libresta
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Believe it or not. Yes I enjoy Eureka. Anemos and Pagos and know several people who do.

    They do not use reddit or the forums. They know better
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  10. #60
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    Jennah Arhtima
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I am filled with white-hot rage over Eureka. The relic grind was actually my favorite bit of content in previous expansions; and it's been taken away, to be replaced with this hot mess.
    If they gave me the option to get a Eureka weapon for 100,000 mendacity without ever having to set foot in the place again, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Maybe 2 or 3 times.
    As it is ... I suspect they're going to have to nerf Pagos much harder (like, it's over from level 20 to finished in less than 10 hours hard) AND telegraph enormous design changes, if they want enough people to even consider setting foot in Pyros...
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