Advice for recruiting for free companies from someone who isn't in one.

[JohnnyDevo]

It amuses me that people are using the word "Clique" when it is their choice not to join in on the social interaction.

Let me share my personal experience. I am very much a quiet, prefer-text-to-be-social person. When I first joined my current FC, it was very obviously a group that used a lot of voice, and FC chat could be quiet. Then I realized that if you talk to them in discord chat, you'll get a lot more interaction because everyone on the discord can see it. I also realized that they were perfectly happy to be social with me in the times I do choose to be social in voice. I feel very welcome in this FC, even though I personally very rarely hop onto voice chat so I can be social at the same time as playing.

I submit that people are not choosing to make "Cliques" or to purposefully disclude people, but rather they're simply using the best methods (discord text and/or voice) to talk. And you know what? I've seen people join and leave this FC, citing these very same reasons listed in this thread, when in fact they made zero effort to be social with us. They expected us to make the effort to make them specifically feel welcome, when we in fact treated them the same as everyone else. I argue that a good Discord server is not a sign of an asocial FC, but rather of one of the best FCs you could find.

[MomomiMomi]

It amuses me that people are using the word "Clique" when it is their choice not to join in on the social interaction.

Let me share my personal experience. I am very much a quiet, prefer-text-to-be-social person. When I first joined my current FC, it was very obviously a group that used a lot of voice, and FC chat could be quiet. Then I realized that if you talk to them in discord chat, you'll get a lot more interaction because everyone on the discord can see it. I also realized that they were perfectly happy to be social with me in the times I do choose to be social in voice. I feel very welcome in this FC, even though I personally very rarely hop onto voice chat so I can be social at the same time as playing.

I submit that people are not choosing to make "Cliques" or to purposefully disclude people, but rather they're simply using the best methods (discord text and/or voice) to talk. And you know what? I've seen people join and leave this FC, citing these very same reasons listed in this thread, when in fact they made zero effort to be social with us. They expected us to make the effort to make them specifically feel welcome, when we in fact treated them the same as everyone else. I argue that a good Discord server is not a sign of an asocial FC, but rather of one of the best FCs you could find.

Most people don't purposely make these cliques. It's something that just happens naturally. They're not intentionally being exclusionary, but they are by the very nature of it being a separate chat that's outside of the game, being exclusionary. Anyone who isn't using Discord is essentially excluded from anything that's happening on it.

[DubiousDisk]

It amuses me that people are using the word "Clique" when it is their choice not to join in on the social interaction.

Let me share my personal experience. I am very much a quiet, prefer-text-to-be-social person. When I first joined my current FC, it was very obviously a group that used a lot of voice, and FC chat could be quiet. Then I realized that if you talk to them in discord chat, you'll get a lot more interaction because everyone on the discord can see it. I also realized that they were perfectly happy to be social with me in the times I do choose to be social in voice. I feel very welcome in this FC, even though I personally very rarely hop onto voice chat so I can be social at the same time as playing.

I submit that people are not choosing to make "Cliques" or to purposefully disclude people, but rather they're simply using the best methods (discord text and/or voice) to talk. And you know what? I've seen people join and leave this FC, citing these very same reasons listed in this thread, when in fact they made zero effort to be social with us. They expected us to make the effort to make them specifically feel welcome, when we in fact treated them the same as everyone else. I argue that a good Discord server is not a sign of an asocial FC, but rather of one of the best FCs you could find.

Good for you, ya lucked out.

But this is a common theme I have seen in all the popular servers, a new player joins, tries to interact/ask for help, and they are outright ignored by a group of 5 for absolutely no reason, even on Discord.

So yea, I'm going to throw around the word, because whether you interact with them or not, it's inevitable you'll meet that one FC that even though at face value they're nice and friendly, but in truth are utterly non-inclusive for no discernable reason.

So yea my point still stands, if you're going to make some terrible copy/paste "We are a friendly FC with a big house" nonsense message, I'd expect everyone, or atleast a handful of people in the FC to include the new person in some of their social activities, not doing so is outright rude and just shows you only want new members for the sake of having some.