Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Hiss13]

Early pulls in alliance runs get on my nerves pretty easily. Most of the time it just means the first 5-10 seconds of the fight will be more chaotic, which is just an annoyance and not really a big deal. Sometimes one or more groups had left-over LBs from the previous fight and that guy running in just threw away potentially hundreds of thousands of points of free damage - i get that we dont need it but why just throw it away for nothing? But i have seen a wipe to premature pull in LotA(to the fight it sounds like youre describing). The atomos fight will wipe the raid after a certain amount of time, and ive seen alliance B only end up with 2 or 3 people when the locked-out players get randomly shunted into one path or other.

The Atomos fight specifically was the one I was referring to though there were premature pulls in my run yesterday everywhere before I finally somehow taught everyone how to use the Ready Check for King Behemoth and Phlegethon.

Yes, I said 'taught'. After we somehow pushed through the Atomos fight after Alliance B was undermanned as hell, I implemented a ready check for the next area when I was close enough. People who were nowhere near hit ready and the tanks still ignored the ready check by just pulling anywhere. I literally had to tell them to follow the ready check and not to hit ready until they were at the area. Not sure if I was coming off as a condescending ass but it really just felt like they had zero patience to just wait for half a minute for everyone to get there.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Had a Ramuh run where a Lalafell monk joked that they couldn't reach high enough to punch anything but beard. I (playing MCH that day) offered to load her on my gun and fire her up at him.

Everyone spent the rest of the fight making jokes about a potato cannon.

[Aosha]

...Ravanna does an attack after the ultimate on the 2nd hate target that cleaves a fairly large cone and hits several times in a row(supurana? that doesnt quite seem like the right name but i dont feel like looking it up). So he needed to be 2nd hate and to stand apart from everyone to safely divert that attack anyway, let alone if the MT was going to die and the boss was going to get loose.

Just for a bit of specifying:
That skill you're thinking of is probably Surpanakha, the repeated shockwaves he throws at someone in beetle stance. It supposedly aims for the OT, or the MT if only one is alive. (Not enmity target, but just a tank specifically.) It also takes quite a few shots to kill... well anyone really. I've easily Scholar tanked my way through it in a run where both tanks fell off.
From the original description, it sounds like they were already out of beetle phase and Ravana had his swords back (as he doesn't directional parry until after beetle), so the skill that actually cleaved them was probably Blinding Blade or Tapasya, which target the one tanking Ravana.

(the rest of your comment is very accurate though, agree wholeheartedly)

[Thamorian]

I was very hesitant to post this here because…well, I feel like this is my fault.

So did a trial roulette and jumped into Ravana HM as a DPS. Things started off fine – got through the first phase with no problems, I’m managing my aggro quite well. But after Ravana used his ultimate, things went south extremely quickly. When Ravana started to do his directional parry, I moved over to the side that was open to attack. The WAR that was main tanking him decided to turn Ravana for some reason, so naturally, I got countered. Not too bad, I’ll just adjust, right?
I threw up a diversion because I was generating a lot of hate, but then went back to going ham on the boss. Didn’t get hit by any more directional parries, but then, and I have no idea how, but the WAR died. With diversion up, I was 2nd in enmity, so naturally, I immediately got aggro – and Ravana shredded me with a cleave….and two other DPS who were on the side with me.

The run led to a wipe. The other tank, also a WAR, said that I should not have had 2nd in enmity. I told him that I had popped diversion well before the main tank died. One of the DPS that died blamed me for wiping the raid due to the cleave that I was not expecting. I didn’t want to argue because I kinda felt bad because I felt that it kinda was my fault, so I apologized to the raid and told them I would pop my diversion much earlier.

I get told to piss off and next thing I know, I get kicked out of the raid.

Now…I haven’t been kicked from an instance in a very long time. So it kinda stings a little bit. What did I do wrong? I apologized, I acknowledged that I should’ve thrown up a diversion earlier…I mean, the only other thing I could’ve done different was maybe not be on the side that the other DPS were on? I dunno…I really wish they didn’t kick me. So…there’s that.

Even though enmity generation is a group effort, as a main tank, I'd place all the blame for this on the OT. He should taken the effort to stay 2nd in enmity. He could of provoked at some point.

[tinythinker]

Well, I haven't queued in any game as a healer for almost a year. I'm not so good at FFXIV, especially higher end content (despite time/practice), but the atmosphere and stories are cool so I always come back even if I'm away a few weeks or months. Decided to try a 50/60 and leveling (which was a 60-something) as healer. And it was like I never left: in the 60+ a largessed regen isn't enough to get through a few holies, so bene, but then the tank is near death again right away after a few more holies. Sorry to both groups, not only was I away but I changed a lot of keybinds. But it just seems like it is the same anyway.

I don't personally mind 80% healing on large pulls, but I know everyone is expecting holy spam. If there was a way to slowly get tomes for gear while deselecting current content I would do it in a heartbeat. Hope everyone is getting good pugs. If you see me in yours stay out of the AoE or I might be running to much to heal you in time

EDIT: No self-pity, nor claiming the game is too hard, just weird that I can play very little in 2018, come back after a couple of months away, and still be at the same skill level as when I was playing regularly and practicing healer stuff a lot.

[Iscah]

If there was a way to slowly get tomes for gear while deselecting current content I would do it in a heartbeat.

50/60 roulette, alliance raids and (if you have the time) MSQ roulette should get you there, I think.

If you’ve been away for a while, you might not be aware, but the MSQ roulette dungeons have been adjusted to prevent skipping cutscenes, and the rewards have been increased to compensate. (Running time is now around 35-50 minutes depending on which dungeon you get.) People will debate its efficiency but it’s still a few hundred tones for doing old content, and not working all that hard for it. Just have something out-of-game to do during the cutscenes.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

I've been leveling AST recently and worked up enough confidence to heal in parties.

Yesterday, I got Labyrinth of the Ancients in Roulette. Usually I enjoy this Raid due to it being easy. Well, shenanigans happened on Bone Dragon that killed half of the Raid, resulting in some 1.0 people screaming at "Stormbabies" for being new and not doing the Raid the way it was meant to be done because they didn't play from the beginning. All in all, the constant bickering made things unpleasant.

Today, I got Dun Sçaith in Roulette and I was freaking out because I always get the ARR Raids in roulette. My party was kind and understanding, though, and we went ahead and pulled. Not only did the Raid not wipe on any bosses, everyone did mechanics fairly well, barring some circles going off on Diabolos Hollow. I even managed to get three commendations at the end.

It's just kinda funny how my least favorite Raid wound up being a more enjoyable experience than one that's significantly easier.

[EmeraldAres]

So I had a fun run of Swallow's Compass. I've been spamming it for desynthesis fodder to get all three of my desynths to 350 before the next patch, so I've been going there a lot. Didn't get any fodder this time, but this run was still worth it.

After the second boss, I asked the group if they'd ever seen someone die in the boss' lake before. I mean, I sure haven't. I'm sure it's happened somewhere because of lag or lack of attention, but the attack is so obvious that no one in their right mind with a stable connection is going to drown in it. Told the group I tried to imagine it happening, but just couldn't. Tank said they'd consider dying to it in the next run they did just for giggles.

Fast forward to the last boss. It goes normally, but I accidentally take a normal "Both Ends" aoe after stacking for a stack marker. "Sorry guys, had a lake moment." Tank was amused by this. After we finished the boss, the tank warned us not to drown in any lakes.

[NameGoesHere]

Four lalafells enter the Palace of the Dead, as each look to their three new companions there is an immediate, unspoken, agreement between them that every room shall be searched, and every living thing butchered.

When the tallies are away...

[Frizze]

Just for a bit of specifying:

You are most likely right. I typed that response from memory without doing a quick fact check, and may have gotten a couple of Ravanas attacks confused in my head. I also remember him turning toward me and sending multiple shockwaves at my BLM and wrecking me once when the fight was new(so early 3.0). It is possible id somehow moved into a position near the OT and wasnt actually BEING targeted. This was all 2 years ago, and while my play has improved since then my memory has not.

Well, I haven't queued in any game as a healer for almost a year... in the 60+ a largessed regen isn't enough to get through a few holies, so bene, but then the tank is near death again right away after a few more holies... If there was a way to slowly get tomes for gear while deselecting current content I would do it in a heartbeat.

I commend you for not giving up, whether you think youre good at it or not. Its entirely possible that the tank in your 60+ dungeon was woefully undergeared. A lot of people these days seem to think they can go all the way from 60 to 70 without upgrading any of their stuff, and it gets pretty rough when its the tank who does it(SO many horror stories of level 60 geared tanks in doma). And as for getting tomes, you have tons of options - you just have to use your level 70 class. Iscah mentions some roulettes, you can also participate in a hunt train, a NM train in eureka, you can run PotD or HoH, or even spam treasure hunts and uznair. And if you have any other classes youre more comfortable as, you can run raids(sigma/ivalice) as your comfortable class and select gear for the one you need.

Yesterday, I got Labyrinth of the Ancients in Roulette. Usually I enjoy this Raid due to it being easy. Well, shenanigans happened on Bone Dragon that killed half of the Raid, resulting in some 1.0 people screaming at "Stormbabies" for being new and not doing the Raid the way it was meant to be done because they didn't play from the beginning. All in all, the constant bickering made things unpleasant.

Today, I got Dun Sçaith in Roulette and I was freaking out because I always get the ARR Raids in roulette. My party was kind and understanding, though, and we went ahead and pulled. Not only did the Raid not wipe on any bosses, everyone did mechanics fairly well, barring some circles going off on Diabolos Hollow. I even managed to get three commendations at the end.

Yeah, a change in attitude can really alter how a run like that feels(whether it goes smoothly or not). People expect LotA(and syrcus... probly void too) to be easy, so they dont take it as seriously. People expect Dunce(and wiping city, WoD, and the lvl 70s) to be harder, so maybe they try a bit harder. Ive always wondered about that Bone Dragon fight myself. I didnt start playing until HW, and didnt run it for the first time until MUCH later so i have no idea what the "way it was meant to be done" even is. People usually tank it toward the outside of the arena, and we're supposed to kill the adds before they merge with it? Is that it, or was there more to it? I have no idea. But bickering alliances doesnt make for a pleasant environment, thats for sure. Congrats on the smooth Dunce run though, hopefully it helps with the old confidence thing.