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  1. #11
    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    That interview was recorded before he saw participation numbers and changed his stance.
    source of this?

    As for me...well, i think at this point if some people like grinding, ok. I just am not treating it like must do content anymore. I feel the model is moving to niche content for different types of players, and thats ok i guess. I don;t think expecting them to change their stances is worthwhile any more.
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  2. #12
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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    I liked Pagos. It's meant to be difficult and time consuming to get a relic, and not to be just focused on fun. It's fun for me, while not being the most fun content and keeping it's difficulty to manage strategy for time cost/efficient to level fast and get the relic fast.

    I'm loving to watch all the whine with my new relic right my side, tho. Kisses and Hugs! I hope SE don't nerf it again, so that whoever put effort into this relic does not feel bad. Savage was not nerfed within 2 weeks.
    Pagos was the final straw for me. My sub ends today.
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  3. #13
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    Azper's Avatar
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    Aria Ashford
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Vote with your time and your wallet. If they don't feel like listening to valid complaints, surely they'll take notice when their subs take a dive.
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  4. #14
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    I liked Pagos. It's meant to be difficult and time consuming to get a relic, and not to be just focused on fun. It's fun for me, while not being the most fun content and keeping it's difficulty to manage strategy for time cost/efficient to level fast and get the relic fast.

    I'm loving to watch all the whine with my new relic right my side, tho. Kisses and Hugs! I hope SE don't nerf it again, so that whoever put effort into this relic does not feel bad. Savage was not nerfed within 2 weeks.
    Nothing about the relic or Pagos is difficult. It's utterly mindless. Some 80%+ of your time will be spent killing mobs with zero mechanics who are only a threat if you do something stupid or the healer passes out from boredom. Pagos exists as a time sink and little else. That's why people have such a negative opinion towards it. There is no challenge, the rewards are meager at best due to 4.4 on the horizon and whole grind forces one path to success. It's content we should expect from an Indie dev team with very limited resources not from a Final Fantasy title.

    You can have your fancy little relic though. I'll have a crafted i380 weapon in 2-3 weeks that destroys it.
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  5. #15
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    Xau's Avatar
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    Nial Niffelh
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    That interview was recorded before he saw participation numbers and changed his stance.
    that interview was done like 2 days ago..... so he didnt changed his stance since the latest nerf to pagos was done like 4 days ago
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  6. #16
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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    I liked Pagos. It's meant to be difficult and time consuming to get a relic, and not to be just focused on fun. It's fun for me, while not being the most fun content and keeping it's difficulty to manage strategy for time cost/efficient to level fast and get the relic fast.

    I'm loving to watch all the whine with my new relic right my side, tho. Kisses and Hugs! I hope SE don't nerf it again, so that whoever put effort into this relic does not feel bad. Savage was not nerfed within 2 weeks.
    I have my relic right by my side as well, and I want them to nerf Pagos right into the ground so other people can have fun because I sure didn't. It was incredibly boring and easy.
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  7. #17
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    LauraAdalena's Avatar
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    Carby Adalena
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    I liked Pagos. It's meant to be difficult and time consuming to get a relic, and not to be just focused on fun. It's fun for me, while not being the most fun content and keeping it's difficulty to manage strategy for time cost/efficient to level fast and get the relic fast.

    I'm loving to watch all the whine with my new relic right my side, tho. Kisses and Hugs! I hope SE don't nerf it again, so that whoever put effort into this relic does not feel bad. Savage was not nerfed within 2 weeks.
    That is some really flawed logic you are using there. First off “and not to be just focused on fun.” It’s a video game. It’s supposed to be fun. What the hell is your logic there about? “Manage strategy for time cost/efficient to level and get the relic fast” So you’re a chain-loving guy who wants Carpal Tunnel? Also, this isn’t difficult content. It’s tedious. I could do half of these mechanics in my sleep. They just hit needlessly hard.

    “I’m loving to watch all the whine with my new relic right my side, tho. Kisses and Hugs!” You know, it’s players like you that made me leave the first time because of your smarmy “it’s not that it’s not good, it’s that you aren’t good at it or invested in it.” Attitudes and I wish I could cast silence on you. “Also hope SE doesn’t nerf it again, so that whoever put effort into...” Do you really have your head that far up? It’s a relic. Nobody should be gloating or feeling upset that THE RELIC got nerfed. I wasn’t upset when the god-awful 20/20/20/20 step got nerfed. I celebrated because I didn’t want other people to go through that.

    Also, your second comment on “this is a relic, not CASUAL content.” I’d like to point out most of the relics before this could be done by doing a dungeon or something a day and logging, content with a more casual-oriented play schedule in mind and only have to be on the game no more than an hour or hour and a half, the amount of time a casual player might play.

    If you like the content, cool, have fun. Don’t act so high-and-mighty because you do.
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    Last edited by LauraAdalena; 08-25-2018 at 01:27 PM.

  8. #18
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    This is relic, and not casual content.
    Relics ARE casual content. Relics are meant to be an easy, yet time-consuming alternative to Savage weapons. Try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by LauraAdalena View Post
    Also, this isn’t difficult content. It’s tedious. I could do half of these mechanics in my sleep. They just hit needlessly hard.
    It’s so not-difficult that I know of people that have used third-party programs to automate the entire process of it.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 08-25-2018 at 02:22 PM.
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  9. #19
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post

    You can have your fancy little relic though. I'll have a crafted i380 weapon in 2-3 weeks that destroys it.
    That's the biggest issue. They released Pagos way too late into the patch cycle, there's literally no reason for the Elemental weapons right now, save for having them for the next step or glamour. Totally expect the next region to also come insanely late into the patch cycle too, making THAT tier also worthless.
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  10. #20
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    Ximus Greget
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    This is relic, and not casual content.
    ??
    Haha clearly this guys is a troll and stop reading the rest of his comments.
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