Why do you want an Auction House? (discussion)[dev1019]

[BelgianRofl]

I don't.

The Marketward does everything a traditonal auction house does without having the long winded auction system. "Oh I have to wait 7 days to see if I won." when most players just put the lowest bid to start as the least they'd accept its not really an auction its as "How much extra do you want to give me for an item you really want."

The auction house you are referring to is Eaby.com, not FFXI's Auction House.

[Epo]

where the heck are you guys getting the idea Auction Houses on games never have a buyout? On every single MMO I've played that has an Auction House you either don't have an auction at all and ONLY have a buyout, or you have both. Seriously people, go play some MMOs and learn how the system works. For goodness sakes, just look at FFXI! And that's the most auction-yish type system I think there is in ANY MMO.

Why I want to see an Auction House is because the ward system, like someone stated previously, has all the conventions of an Auction House...however, even if they have these conventions, it is not optimized. Why should I have to look for a freakin' star next to players with my item instead of just buying it at the window that says it's there? It's not necessary. Now the biggest reason I want an auction house is because, notice all the wards. Battlecraft, Magiccraft, Crystals, etc. So if I have a weapon I wanna sell, I have to go through the hassle of going into the battleward, setting my weapon in a a retainer there, and then leave. The loading between all this, even on a fast computer, is just just not not needed. Especially when I realize, I still have crystals to sell, and a magic weapon oohhh yeah, not just a melee weapon! I gotta go to a whole new ward for a magic weapon. So I go to that ward, set up a retainer, then set one up in the Crystal ward for my crystal. Phew, done. . . . Oh wait... I forgot my armor. Okay! Time to find out if my armor goes in lower, mid, or high, then deal with all that.

It's just a bunch of unneeded, tedious crap. I admit, back in a lot of other MMOs this system would be fine. Such as many free to play that don't have an auction house. But FFXIV ain't gonna be free to play forever, and it's a heckuva lot better than a free to play MMO anyway. There's no reason for it to not have an optimized marketing system that even it's predecessor by 8 years even has. Yes, it is a different system, but don't fix what isn't broken. There's a reason every MMO has an auction house nowadays. It's because it's the best marketing system out there, and just 'cause you have an auction house doesn't make you similar to another game.

Different for the sake of different is rarely good.

[DarkRain]

This is my view of the AH.

I would like to have one because you wouldent need to STAY in one city ( Ul'Dah ).
If the AH was like that in 11 it would be just fine.
Bad thing with an AH is RMTs this is where thay make 90% of there gil to sell. We buy items thay save the gil some lazy bastard spends 20$ just for 1~3mil ( no idea what the going rate is ) And the circle is never broken.

But haveing said that if you goto the wards now you can see RMTs all over there. There in the Crystal wards. All the RMTs now are Alch/Fishers/Botonest What thay do is gather fish or bugs and squish them in to crystals and shards. Then people who are crafting non stop go and buy the shards/crystals from the wards. Again never ending Circle. ( if you notice 3 or 4 retainers with the same names like crystalxx , crystalxxx,crystalxxxx...ext)

You will never stop RMTs there is only one true way to stop rmts and that is make , farm , and gather everything yourself. And hope you score the NM before thay do and get the drop . If you dont feed the RMT gil ( buying crystals for example) thay will eventualy go away. Also if anyone is buying FFXIV gil you really are one lazy ass lol . Gil is SOOOOOOO easy to make in the game and mats drop all the time if you craft so there is really no excuse to buy any gil.

Ok Sorry whent off on a rant there lol ( I HATE RMTS )But more or less we could use a AH and use the retainers like we did in 11 .
How did we use retainers in 11 you ask? Well we just parked our arses outside Jeuno and whent to sleep or work came back to see if anything sold. Retainers could be useing like this along with your AFK selling. But retainers are allways there even if you log out. So your AFK selling just not loged in but you could do that also.

[Zkieve]

I dont like or dislike wards in particular.it is functional.It could definitely be better.But there are few thins that is no reason to love /hate it imo;
-it does not stop RMT.
-It is not the most user friendly system.
-It does (for the most part) everything an AH would.

I dont think is a priority.I also believe that it will be implemented because is what the majority wants.
I never fully understood why not make a global AH .In the end 90% of the players will use the most used place , or at least is what i have experienced.

[Gail]

An AH is only as good as its functionality and facility, wards at the present work. That doesn't mean any AH would necessarily be better.
Take for example XI and WoW, the AH are only as good as how they are linked.
In the end you'll probably end up going to the same AH to sell your stuff be it Jeuno, Al'zhabi, Stormwind, Orgrimmar, or our equivalent in XIV, Ul'dah.
I think its always good in a game for there to be some outside markets away from the main circle anyway.
Usually you can find some specialist items and sometimes cheaper.
No AH doesn't bother me at the moment, its not make or break for the game.

[Shadowskill]

I honestly don't see the need for an AH. The wards just need few minor tweaks... then most importantly a server that can handle them (Crash way to much) other then that. I find it nice to be able to search for the item in question. shop around through the search function, when locate the Retainer. walk up and purchase it. Sure having an AH doing the exact same thing would take one step out of this.. since the Wards are in place. work fairly well (minus the crashing) either would work. I just like the feeling of going up to a Retainer then buying my item.. probably old fashion in a way.

They could add an Auction House so to speak. where players can have open bids on hard to get items. make it a true Auction. highest bidder gets rewarded with what ever item they can afford.

I cool feature they could add to the existing Wards.. a world search function, allowing players to search other wards, to look for the cheapest deal. (would still need travel to said ward though) help with traveling around wasting Anima just to find the first ward was cheapest. also help crafters to find a suitable town to sell their goods.

[DarkRain]

Im going to start my own Auction when the game is live again (tomorrow) im going to stand in Ul'Dah and say For sale 50 fire crystals. Lets start the bidding at 300gil !! and see what kind of reaction i get

[Theplatter]

I overall preferred the AH in FFXI; sure Wards perform a similar function but the constant crashing and resetting of wards makes it an inferior system. However, if SE were to replace the Wards with an AH, they'd also need to add the Mog Houses (which would be awesome).

Funny though that people say they'd prefer the AH over Wards since they don't want to have to travel to get what they want, when FFXI had a series of independent AH's for each of the major towns that sometimes crossed over/tied with other areas.

[Chory]

AH is much easier to navigate/sort and faster to purchase/check price than MW. Price history feature, no running, no loadings between zones, easier SELL LIST management. Only good thing about MW is gear display on retainer but honestly - it will be much better if items will start to actually work different instead of just look different.

Oh, and you're sooooooo wrong saying MW is an anti-RMT tool.
RMTs hardly speculate with prices. They usually focus on intense farming/gathering/NM camping and flood the market with stuff. Their activity usually lowers the prices. MW makes it harder for them at the same level it makes buying/selling harder for all players. It isn't more anti-RMT than it is anti-players. And seriously, SE should focus on making FFXIV playable instead of fighting RMTs. RMTs don't care much about FFXIV atm.
BTW: I prefer dealing with RMTs over dealing with SEs anti-RMT tools. Anti-RMT tools usually harm regular payers with collateral damage. The one and only good manner to deal with RMTs is to ban them.

[God]

Need an AH to save precious time.