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  1. #731
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Clearly, you're not improving if you think enrage timers are "abusive and unfair" and need a handout. Bourne is a high-level raider and actually posts reasonable and knowledgeable information all of the time, maybe you need to get off your own high horse in thinking that you're someone who knows better right now instead of picking fights because you can't take a lick of criticism when it's thrown back at you.



    You just called everyone that disagrees with you "white knights", I call bs on you not attacking anyone and trying to play the victim card now like you're some kind of innocent angelic Moogle.
    I have agree with this, I might of (tbh I can't remember, nor do i care) disagreed with Bourne on things before, but she ? (correct me if this is wrong) shown to deserve respect. The only "high horse" I see is the quote Sigma-Astra is replying to.

    As far as Enrage timer, i am a bit wishy washy. The fault of this is SE's design though. Beating Enrage timers is not hard at all and some do exist I seen fail to meet in causal content before. Enrage timers in this game is not the problem. What is the problem is SE not giving the playerbase enough tools to show people's mistakes in rotations like DPS meter and more advanced tutorials (I say more advanced as something harder then literal face roll) I bet I can do my part enough to beat Enrage timers by hitting 1,1,1,1,1,1,1 fast enough. (non-savage)

    The game does a very poor job of showing the importance of keeping up a moderate APM, and how the common playerbase may not be aware of the long term effects of clipping their OCDS or even react using them (meaning pressing a button after you see the timer is ready) To make reactive ability using worse, is the slow servers, people that hit the next ability ahead of time, at some point, one of those rapid taps will go though to use the next ability, even though on our end we should not be able to yet. When someone is reacting to this game, that delay is added to the human reaction time, making the "skill gap" bigger.

    My point is, Enrage timers should not exist in this game at all till SE does a better job presenting this game to lessen the skill gap, a big issue since HW. (maybe ARR too? i doono) The game's base programing on the audience it is trying to appeal to does not match, basically. I believe people call this "appealing to the lowest common denominator" and the game does a poor job of teaching itself to players that fit that, that try to play any kind of level cap content. So I am against Enrage timers till SE does a better job addressing that. Meaning keep them out of ALL CONTENT outside savage, and the current most EX. Once they get outdated, the Enrage timers should be removed there too, till once again, SE does a better job to present the game to "lowest common denominator"
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 07-29-2018 at 05:55 AM.

  2. #732
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    Yes let's remove enrage timers, 20 minutes of fight the first day on construct 7 were the best thing ever /s
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  3. #733
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Yes let's remove enrage timers, 20 minutes of fight the first day on construct 7 were the best thing ever /s
    Yes, let's remove enrage timers!

    Finally, my static of 2 Paladins and 6 random healers will have it's time to shine!
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  4. #734
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    They could just turn it into a one button smash fest and whoever can press that one button fastest does most DPS.... oo wait this isn't a mobile game.

    One person in my FC alliance uses a parsers it helped me change up my rotations. So I'm a better WAR DPS now by my numbers only increase by 200. And that isn't going to make or break a clear or it shouldn't be the difference.

    SE Could go a long way by fixing the marco system. So people with less skill could take advantage of it.
    add action queueing, Fix it so you can use .1 of a second. This would solve many issue.
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  5. #735
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Yes let's remove enrage timers, 20 minutes of fight the first day on construct 7 were the best thing ever /s
    No lie I released about 7 mins into a Construct 7 encounter, went afk to make a coffee, came back and sat on Reddit for 10 mins while I waited for everyone to wipe or finish the fight. I was still top 10 DPS at the end of the kill. What.
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  6. #736
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    No lie I released about 7 mins into a Construct 7 encounter, went afk to make a coffee, came back and sat on Reddit for 10 mins while I waited for everyone to wipe or finish the fight. I was still top 10 DPS at the end of the kill. What.
    Sounds like some people had the same idea as you
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  7. #737
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    Soma Kagami
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    I remember my first day of Construct 7...

    I go into construct... "Oh, I have 1. 1 is a prime number."

    Construct 7: Lulz, nah uh fam.

    "What!? Why did I!? Why didn't...!?"

    *A Google Search seconds later*

    "Gdi, my whole childhood education was a lie! Damn Imperial system!"
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  8. #738
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    They could just turn it into a one button smash fest and whoever can press that one button fastest does most DPS.... oo wait this isn't a mobile game.

    One person in my FC alliance uses a parsers it helped me change up my rotations. So I'm a better WAR DPS now by my numbers only increase by 200. And that isn't going to make or break a clear or it shouldn't be the difference.

    SE Could go a long way by fixing the marco system. So people with less skill could take advantage of it.
    add action queueing, Fix it so you can use .1 of a second. This would solve many issue.
    They would need to fix the 1.0 coding limitations to make that work. They act like the world is going to end if they try to do so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Yes let's remove enrage timers, 20 minutes of fight the first day on construct 7 were the best thing ever /s
    Nice way to miss the point of what I said

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I remember my first day of Construct 7...

    I go into construct... "Oh, I have 1. 1 is a prime number."

    Construct 7: Lulz, nah uh fam.

    "What!? Why did I!? Why didn't...!?"

    *A Google Search seconds later*

    "Gdi, my whole childhood education was a lie! Damn Imperial system!"
    There was a note in the duty that tells you the prime numbers. Also I had someone tell me how they where like in 6th grade? something like that idk, some USA sorting system. It was explained how she was mad for getting 1 question marked wrong on the test and was confused why. The teacher said "you missed a prime number", the reply "no I didn't" Then the teacher said, "you missed stating 1 as a prime number", and this 6th grader again refuted it saying 1 is not a prime number. Teacher went to look it up and had to change my friends grade to be 105% or something (got some bonus question right)

    Talk about the student teaching the teacher.
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 07-29-2018 at 08:14 AM.

  9. #739
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    I'll say this, saying that SE is at fault for ppl not beign good at the game is just as bad as the beater plot point from SAO.

    Informations are avaible to anyone and there's plenty of ppl that are ready to help ppl improve as such the problem lies mostly on ppl not searching such knowledge which means that even if SE were to provide them with knowledge they won't use it.
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  10. #740
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    There was a note in the duty that tells you the prime numbers. Also I had someone tell me how they where like in 6th grade? something like that idk, some USA sorting system. It was explained how she was mad for getting 1 question marked wrong on the test and was confused why. The teacher said "you missed a prime number", the reply "no I didn't" Then the teacher said, "you missed stating 1 as a prime number", and this 6th grader again refuted it saying 1 is not a prime number. Teacher went to look it up and had to change my friends grade to be 105% or something (got some bonus question right)

    Talk about the student teaching the teacher.
    Well, my country (USA) still uses the Imperial system while every other country in the world uses the Metric so...I've been taught 1 was a prime number since forever. Then, Construct 7 opens up my eyes and makes me realize that everyone else was taught something different, lol.
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