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  1. #91
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    Ameela's Avatar
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    2 As a healer I really don’t care about parses because are irrelevant to me.
    Even if you don't care about healer DPS, you do know that parsing your healing output is a thing too, right? And it's par for the course for optimizing your play.
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  2. #92
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Just in case you aren't aware, there's an option to hide all your logs, if that's what's bothering you so much.
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  3. #93
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    Andre Cat
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    As if raiders don't have an interest in the community either...

    If you actually think the forums were bad, you should've expected these types of responses when you started off by essentially attacking a tool that you have shown little understanding for. And then shooting down the responses that you chose to reply to. Then labeling raiders as toxic. How about you actually learn about the tools, the jobs you've been complaining about, and in your case, what an elitist actually is.

    Word of advise, though: if you are just as hostile and unresistant to actually discussing things like this thread, then yeah...you're going to be labeled as a troll. In much the same vein as past trolls. Don't do it. Don't be the next zexy. Don't be the next enigma. Don't be the next troll that earns infamy.
    OMG I attacked a TOOL not anyone else!
    Being called troll offends me because was not my I would never.. and I can’t really answer to everybody come on, surely I won’t answer if someone is rude. I am a raider myself and I didn’t call raiders toxic OMG but only player that are greedy,selfish and rude in PF
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    Even if you don't care about healer DPS, you do know that parsing your healing output is a thing too, right? And it's par for the course for optimizing your play.
    I don’t mind about my parses,are good and I just use it to improve myself but ppl discriminate and classify players by their logs! I see some orange logs healer with statics that barely heal because there is no need thanks to their sinergy and their discord but me I am on Pf and I find so many noobs. I don’t discriminate them or get upset as far as they learn from their mistakes, don’t mind to try 10 times if I have too. But if you greed for dmg and dint dodge or don’t follow mechs because you expect me to heal I get pissed off. Easy heal with a perfect party with super player with 6k DPS but the good healer you see it in difficult situations when the party struggle and you save 12 ppl from dead! Sometimes I have to Rez 4/5 times manually and I still deal dmg so I do pretty well.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima View Post
    1. You are casual because you made this thread.

    2. Then you're not a good healer.

    3. Because you're toxic.

    4. That'd require official parser support.
    I am not toxic at all I am a really nice fella dear..

    I don’t care about my dmg because I keep everybody alive and I save ppl from their mistakes! With the perfect group there is no need of heal every second but with ppl in Pf you deal with mistakes so I don’t mind about my dmg. My uptime is pretty high and my dots always on so I don’t cry over green,blue or whatever logs
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    Even if you don't care about healer DPS, you do know that parsing your healing output is a thing too, right? And it's par for the course for optimizing your play.
    I heal when required and I attack all the rest of the time! Every run is different and as SCH I aim to mitigate but if the other healer is noob, lazy or greedy I have to manually heal all the fight so BB dmg and that’s no drama...

    Still I didn’t want to discuss just give a helpful suggestion for the well-being of the community that’s it. My post was directed to the developers.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    OMG I attacked a TOOL not anyone else!
    Being called troll offends me because was not my I would never.. and I can’t really answer to everybody come on, surely I won’t answer if someone is rude. I am a raider myself and I didn’t call raiders toxic OMG but only player that are greedy,selfish and rude in PF
    When you were going off about a page ago about toxicity and some of the people you were responding to...you didn't put two and two together and realize that most of the folks you responded to were raiders? Or that these "greedy" players that you are tired of are technically raiders themselves?

    If what I said truly offends you, then I would suggest not responding in the way that you have - plenty of us have pointed out some holes in your posts. Not saying that you absolutely have to agree with them, but I do believe that you need to learn some more about the parsers, DPS'ing, and other jobs in general. It doesn't look like you have any logs for Deltascape, which tells me that you're a fairly newish raider in FFXIV. Some advice for you: be more receptive to reading what folks are trying to say, rather than waiting for a reason to respond. If you still disagree, make sure you have learned about a topic first before making a disagreement. A lot of folks here actually do enjoy having a discussion - it's when something is brought up that reeks of a lack of full knowledge that creates situations like this.
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  8. #98
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    Hibiki Hisakawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    I am not toxic at all I am a really nice fella dear..

    I don’t care about my dmg because I keep everybody alive and I save ppl from their mistakes! With the perfect group there is no need of heal every second but with ppl in Pf you deal with mistakes so I don’t mind about my dmg. My uptime is pretty high and my dots always on so I don’t cry over green,blue or whatever logs
    Toxicity is subjective, I wouldn't want you in my groups because you seem like you cause trouble and wear a fake personality.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    I heal when required and I attack all the rest of the time! Every run is different and as SCH I aim to mitigate but if the other healer is noob, lazy or greedy I have to manually heal all the fight so BB dmg and that’s no drama...

    Still I didn’t want to discuss just give a helpful suggestion for the well-being of the community that’s it. My post was directed to the developers.
    Classic example right here, you went to a forum not to -DISCUSS- an idea, but instead your ego is so big, you think your suggestion is this amazing gift that nobody has ever thought of or tried before and that the developers will swoop in and read? You're self-centered and selfish, like the people you came here to disparage.
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  9. #99
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    Malora Lyra
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    So because people enjoy being optimal that’s bad how? If they aren’t harassing you about it who cares if they want to play optimal. Just because the OP isn’t having fun clearly no one else can be either. Sounds like a pitty party to me.
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    Last edited by MaloraYuki; 07-20-2018 at 08:43 PM.

  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima View Post
    Toxicity is subjective, I wouldn't want you in my groups because you seem like you cause trouble and wear a fake personality.



    Classic example right here, you went to a forum not to -DISCUSS- an idea, but instead your ego is so big, you think your suggestion is this amazing gift that nobody has ever thought of or tried before and that the developers will swoop in and read? You're self-centered and selfish, like the people you came here to disparage.
    I represent a group of people, a minority if you like cos I am sure other feel like me. I care that’s all and it’s not a crime to want make things better and fair. I say it again: I didn’t know how the forum works! Mine was a suggestion to developers that’s all
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