Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

[KaivaC]

Ugh…another one of these? Man…some things will never change. Though I doubt you will come back as this seems to be a one-off post, let’s address some things.

I know you’re new to these forums, perhaps, but…what a conceited statement. How are players who use parsers any less passionate than players who don’t use it? Like, what does this even mean? About your posts about skill not being used…what in the world does that have to do with parsers? That point alone runs completely counter to what you are addressing – ideally, for example, NINs would throw Shadewalker on tanks to allow them to stay in their DPS stance. So…what does this have to do with parsers?

Actually…having read through your entire post multiple times, very little of it has anything at all to do with parsing. Leveling up for fun? And don’t get me started on that ridiculous assessment that you said about skin color and discrimination and the like. Maybe this post seems a bit harsh, but this post has little to do with parsers and everything else to do with bad players, inexperience, and lack of hoals in the game.

I invite you to respond and explain yourself. Don’t worry, I’ll wait.

edit: Dang, I thought I would've beaten others to this post first. Why are people in the habit to kicking up hornet's nests these days?

[Lazlo69]

Ugh…another one of these? Man…some things will never change. Though I doubt you will come back as this seems to be a one-off post, let’s address some things.

I know you’re new to these forums, perhaps, but…what a conceited statement. How are players who use parsers any less passionate than players who don’t use it? Like, what does this even mean? About your posts about skill not being used…what in the world does that have to do with parsers? That point alone runs completely counter to what you are addressing – ideally, for example, NINs would throw Shadewalker on tanks to allow them to stay in their DPS stance. So…what does this have to do with parsers?

Actually…having read through your entire post multiple times, very little of it has anything at all to do with parsing. Leveling up for fun? And don’t get me started on that ridiculous assessment that you said about skin color and discrimination and the like. Maybe this post seems a bit harsh, but this post has little to do with parsers and everything else to do with bad players, inexperience, and lack of hoals in the game.

I invite you to respond and explain yourself. Don’t worry, I’ll wait.

edit: Dang, I thought I would've beaten others to this post first. Why are people in the habit to kicking up hornet's nests these days?

I'm new here... though I should be used to this kind of dumb posting from OW and playing wow for a few years

[KaivaC]

I'm new here... though I should be used to this kind of dumb posting from OW and playing wow for a few years

Sadly, sometimes, we get a new person that posts up something provocative (though not necessarily bad in many cases), but they never return to the forums. Sometimes, I wonder how some of the threads here would go at reddit without the rules of the forums to keep a lot of us mostly in check.

[Lazlo69]

Sadly, sometimes, we get a new person that posts up something provocative (though not necessarily bad in many cases), but they never return to the forums. Sometimes, I wonder how some of the threads here would go at reddit without the rules of the forums to keep a lot of us mostly in check.

Thank you for the response. Glad to see other, older posters, somewhat agreeing with me against the OP.

There are ways to use tools in shitty ways but I, myself, want to know how I do and if these tools can help me improve, I sure as hell want to know about hem.

@OP, this is literally a way to make the community better if well used. See where you do badly and find ways to improve. If idiots shit-talk you? report them. Otherwise you may actually need to learn new ways to play your job or get hints about how to become better. Being a better player usually implies you clear things faster and therefore get currency faster, enjoy yourself and have a better use of your time.

Have fun.

[JohnSeal]

Hi, my point is that MOST of players are selfish and care only about their own personal results. As I said nobody use enmity decreaser or little useful skills/role that would help other because they will lose a GCD, an online game should create a sense of aggregation and result with everybody having fun by achieving a common goal but because of this obsession with parses player for their own personal gain damage others performance and refuse to help at all. The parses are the problem, because are just number and don’t consider the situations in that specific instance such as ppl behaviours, experience, internet speed or ping that greatly effect some classes. I think s good players uses all the skills available and help other as more as possible.

Btw I really tried to be concise I swear lol

[KaivaC]

Hi, my point is that MOST of players are selfish and care only about their own personal results. As I said nobody use enmity decreaser or little useful skills/role that would help other because they will lose a GCD, an online game should create a sense of aggregation and result with everybody having fun by achieving a common goal but because of this obsession with parses player for their own personal gain damage others performance and refuse to help at all. The parses are the problem, because are just number and don’t consider the situations in that specific instance such as ppl behaviours, experience, internet speed or ping that greatly effect some classes. I think s good players uses all the skills available and help other as more as possible.

Btw I really tried to be concise I swear lol

Oh...oh you came back? Alrighty then, let's address one of my main issues that you posted - Shadewalker. It's used at the beginning of a pull to help the main tank stay in DPS stance...how is that a parse issue? It's doesn't really take away from DPS and it helps the tank keep their aggro, no matter what stance they are in.

I can't exactly deny the whole obsession with parsing, because I just recently went through that mess myself - but that's less of a tool issue and more of a player issue. Selfish players are going to be selfish, regardless of whether a tool is used or not. It's not really fair to blame a tool because some players want to abuse them. And again, a good chunk of your original post is not a parsing issue in the first place. It's a player issue.

I've genuinely not had that used in any group I've been in since ARR. That's either very anecdotal or very server-based.

Dunno if you'll see this edit here, but aggro management at all levels is everyone's responsibility. The best guides out there from the wonderful theorycrafters at the balance have enmity reduction tools listed in your openers for a reason. Good WARs for example are only in their tank stance for maybe 5 seconds at the start of a fight as the main tank before switching to DPS stance because they excel when they aren't being nerfed by their DPS stances. It would be hard for them to output their full toolkit if they had to waste a couple GCDs going back into a tank stance because a DPS doesn't want to use their enmity tools (of course, at this point in time, ilvl discrepancy plays a pretty large role in this as well).

[SargentToughie]

Hi, my point is that MOST of players are selfish and care only about their own personal results. As I said nobody use enmity decreaser or little useful skills/role that would help other because they will lose a GCD, an online game should create a sense of aggregation and result with everybody having fun by achieving a common goal but because of this obsession with parses player for their own personal gain damage others performance and refuse to help at all. The parses are the problem, because are just number and don’t consider the situations in that specific instance such as ppl behaviours, experience, internet speed or ping that greatly effect some classes. I think s good players uses all the skills available and help other as more as possible.

Btw I really tried to be concise I swear lol

One could actually argue that most people actually refuse to use enmity reduction skills because your enmity is the only metric your party has to see how much damage you're doing. It's really bad logic, and only works for basic level pugs, but it's still logic used by people who play the game.

:thinking:

[Lazlo69]

One could actually argue that most people actually refuse to use enmity reduction skills because your enmity is the only metric your party has to see how much damage you're doing. It's really bad logic, and only works for basic level pugs, but it's still logic used by people who play the game.

:thinking:

I've genuinely not had that used in any group I've been in since ARR. That's either very anecdotal or very server-based.

[JohnSeal]

Hi, my point is that MOST of players are selfish and care only about their own personal results. As I said nobody use enmity decreaser or little useful skills/role

Btw I really tried to be concise I swear lol

[Lazlo69]

Hi, my point is that MOST of players are selfish and care only about their own personal results. As I said nobody use enmity decreaser or little useful skills/role

Btw I really tried to be concise I swear lol

DPS really should though. That's such a running joke LarryZ made a point of it in his BLM vid.

DPS =0 if you're dead.