Gender Bias in Character Creation

[Joven]

I wonder how many people would get banned for names like Longdong Silvers, Studs McKinzie or just simply Big Johnson if this was added?

[Awha]

I wonder how many people would get banned for names like Longdong Silvers, Studs McKinzie or just simply Big Johnson if this was added?

LOL I do like Longdong Silvers good rp name.

[KisaiTenshi]

Why would these extreme disparaties exist if there were not fundamental differences in the interests and aptitudes of men and women?

Because you're using the labels "men and women". Take a closer look, you'll notice that the men that are interested in trades, overlap with one segment of the Lesbian and Transmen segment of people. For all that matters, the reason those jobs appeal to those people are because they are not hiding their interests. For a lot of other women who would like to be in trades but aren't, they don't want to either out themselves, or appear to be gay if they aren't. The negative perception is that women just can't do the work.

The same holds true on the other side. Women interested in nursing, and childcare, overlap with one segment of the Gay and Transwomen segment. However this is where things get ugly. There is an entire negative perception that Transwomen and Gay men abuse children. So that's why childcare is often not a thing men want to get into. Nursing, not so much, it's typically the lack of aptitude for responsibility that gets men removed from Nursing programs.

There is pressure, on everyone, to conform to their gender label. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are unhappy in their job, are only unhappy because they don't want to be there, and are only there because of not wanting to appear as less of a man/woman.

It is not a biological reason why these interests are the way they are, it's entirely a social-cultural thing. If you were to remove all outside influences, and give kids their choice of toys without labeling them as "for boys" or "for girls" , you'll find there's no significant difference that way.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ender-research

Gender preferences for toys only show up after children learn about their gender. Babies show no preference, Brown says.

In fact, when it comes to the actual toys kids like to play with, there is more variability within a gender than there is between genders, says Sweet. For example, she points out that studies of young children have shown that boys are no more likely than girls to enjoy playing with a toy with wheels, something traditionally given to boys.

Between ages three to five, gender is very important to children, says Brown. So when children see clearly divided aisles with reinforced gender cues like pink or blue toys, they pay careful attention. Children also take a lot of cues from each other.

In experiments, if you take a truck and show a girl a group of other girls playing with the truck, that girl will be more likely to play with it and see it as a girl’s toy, according to Brown.

Little kids also tend to think in a “black and white way” and try to be “very typical for their gender”, explains Brown.

[kikix12]

Nursing, not so much, it's typically the lack of aptitude for responsibility that gets men removed from Nursing programs.

Um...I won't bother answering to the rest but...what?!

Responsibility is a neutral trait. It is a trait of the individual and I've seen many, MANY people that are irresponsible, regardless of age or gender, in my life. Responsibility is 100% taught trait.

Women however are wired into taking care of children. They are far more patient towards children and find more appeal in taking direct care of them. This have nothing do to with responsibility. Men simply, usually, don't like taking care of young children. At least those that are not their own.


It's also funny when you are downgrading the responsibility trait in men, even though architecture, construction, medicine etc. are still dominated by men. A failure in any of these fields can take lives. HUNDREDTHS of them at once, even. And doctors are the ones that take more responsibility upon them than the nurses that, for the larger part, just follow their decisions.

Now, I do not "undervalue" women or "elevate" men in any way. For jobs that are largely mental work, both genders are fully capable of doing it very well (and women do tend to put more effort into studying and such), be it an architect, technician, a doctor etc. But, for whatever reason it is, men are largely dominating in certain fields, even if those fields are ones where their decisions require taking responsibility for thousands of lives. So ditch the idea of men not taking to nursery and such because they're irresponsible.

[Magic-Mal]

A failure in any of these fields can take lives. HUNDREDTHS of them at once, even.

That's a tiny amount! I don't think it's a cause for concern.
: D

[Awha]

I feel this thread would be more productive if it were about butt, bulge, chest, and body hair sliders. Any other sliders I have forgot about, I wish to be all inclusive.

[MoroMurasaki]

Because you're using the labels "men and women". Take a closer look, you'll notice that the men that are interested in trades, overlap with one segment of the Lesbian and Transmen segment of people. For all that matters, the reason those jobs appeal to those people are because they are not hiding their interests. For a lot of other women who would like to be in trades but aren't, they don't want to either out themselves, or appear to be gay if they aren't. The negative perception is that women just can't do the work.

The same holds true on the other side. Women interested in nursing, and childcare, overlap with one segment of the Gay and Transwomen segment. However this is where things get ugly. There is an entire negative perception that Transwomen and Gay men abuse children. So that's why childcare is often not a thing men want to get into. Nursing, not so much, it's typically the lack of aptitude for responsibility that gets men removed from Nursing programs.

There is pressure, on everyone, to conform to their gender label. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are unhappy in their job, are only unhappy because they don't want to be there, and are only there because of not wanting to appear as less of a man/woman.

It is not a biological reason why these interests are the way they are, it's entirely a social-cultural thing. If you were to remove all outside influences, and give kids their choice of toys without labeling them as "for boys" or "for girls" , you'll find there's no significant difference that way.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ender-research

I was here when you suggested that healer dps moves were there to "knock bombs away".

I was here when you suggested that the correct way to play WHM was to be constantly generating lillies.

I was here when you suggested such massive CD reduction that things like Largresse and Presence of Mind would be up upwards of 70% of the time.

Despite all of those things being standout moments in my mind when it comes to the very real and very frightening lack of understanding exhibited by members of these forums this is and likely will forever be the pinnacle of excellence in that category.

I can't actually respond to any of that because it makes so little sense. Not only have you managed to ignore the biological differences between men and women (hint: it's more than boobs and bulges like this thread would have you believe) but you have gone on to create some sort of gender-enforcement boogeyman that I imagine running around slapping barbies out of the hands of little boys and following people all the way up to college applications to force women out of STEM.

Do you have even the most basic understanding of statistics? Do you understand that trans people in the context of a statistic relating to the entirety of a large scale workforce are essentially inconsequential because there are so few? If some lesbians or trans men would like to work on an oil rig I say good for them. If some straight cis women want to do the same - awesome, have fun.

The problem is everyone has a chance to become an oil rigger and virtually none of them are or have been genetically or biologically female. The same can be said for plenty if other fields.

I'm done talking to you about this because it is painfully clear you will never apply common sense to this topic.

I hope this thread can circle back around to bulge sliders, thanks to the quoted post here I can say that they are no longer the most ridiculous thing in this thread. Best of luck with your days everyone, I hope you can recover from reading that nonsense.

[Awha]

Because you're using the labels "men and women". Take a closer look, you'll notice that the men that are interested in trades, overlap with one segment of the Lesbian and Transmen segment of people. For all that matters, the reason those jobs appeal to those people are because they are not hiding their interests. For a lot of other women who would like to be in trades but aren't, they don't want to either out themselves, or appear to be gay if they aren't. The negative perception is that women just can't do the work.

The same holds true on the other side. Women interested in nursing, and childcare, overlap with one segment of the Gay and Transwomen segment. However this is where things get ugly. There is an entire negative perception that Transwomen and Gay men abuse children. So that's why childcare is often not a thing men want to get into. Nursing, not so much, it's typically the lack of aptitude for responsibility that gets men removed from Nursing programs.

There is pressure, on everyone, to conform to their gender label. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are unhappy in their job, are only unhappy because they don't want to be there, and are only there because of not wanting to appear as less of a man/woman.

It is not a biological reason why these interests are the way they are, it's entirely a social-cultural thing. If you were to remove all outside influences, and give kids their choice of toys without labeling them as "for boys" or "for girls" , you'll find there's no significant difference that way.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ender-research

You need more sliders in your life, join the slider revolution!

[Skivvy]

I think the original inquiry was silly. We definitely don't need a manhood slider.

Plus, it'll look stupid on a lalafell.

If anything, I imagine the bulge slider on the Lalafell would handle the exact same as the bust slider. You can put that bad-boy up to 100% on a female Lala, and you still get nothing! Nothing should detract from their potato form

[TheMightyMollusk]

Haven't look in this thread in a while, wonder what's going on in-