Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Kallistra]

Also, Kall, that Mnk doesn't surprise me any. Could Selli have used an Echo Drop at that moment? Perhaps. Should anyone have relied on her to do so, or use that trap as the starting gun to go wild in a given HoH floor? Not without looking like an idiot. So that Mnk can go enjoy him(or her?)self. lol

I don't know if she had any Echo Drops, but I don't think she would have been able to save him anyway. There was about 4-5 monsters that he pulled (they weren't from a Luring Trap, mind you). The DRG and I were struggling to take them down even when Selli could heal again, but thankfully our new member grabbed us a Witching Pomander and we were able to kill them.

[Zefiris]

I was doing Aery as bard for Wondrous Trails (need dungeon lv51-59) and saw tank using gear iLvl 90, some 120. Well, I said the things could be hard this way. Healer seems to have thought I talked in offensive way and criticized me by not be using songs. Well, yes, I was thinking in other things and forgot about songs. I only said sorry and started to use after the first boss.

Sometimes I used Tactician/Reflesh to lose aggro, but in general the tank was doing well even with that ilvl. And only died 1x. So I give commendation for tank. But before leave I said: "Sr. Tank, next dungeon is very hard with bad gear. Try catch better gear" o.o

[Aster_E]

I don't know if she had any Echo Drops, but I don't think she would have been able to save him anyway. There was about 4-5 monsters that he pulled (they weren't from a Luring Trap, mind you). The DRG and I were struggling to take them down even when Selli could heal again, but thankfully our new member grabbed us a Witching Pomander and we were able to kill them.

Right. Like, among other things, one of my points was that Echo Drops could have been useful, but shouldn't have been necessary, or, as you're saying, wouldn't have been enough to save that Mnk from his/herself. I know THAT situation all too well as a healer.

[MicahZerrshia]

Right. Like, among other things, one of my points was that Echo Drops could have been useful, but shouldn't have been necessary, or, as you're saying, wouldn't have been enough to save that Mnk from his/herself. I know THAT situation all too well as a healer.

Honestly when you enter a dungeon that you know has a fair chance of silencing you and if it happens on the wrong time could possibly cause a wipe, echo drops should be a standard. They would be if it were a boss mechanic, why not a dungeon mechanic?

I always carry them, esp for PotD or HoH now. To me its like not putting a very helpful job ability on your bar when you know it could save the pt. If someone didn't put Esuna on their bar for instance when a boss had a poison mechanic that could be deadly if it just happened to coincide with an add phase they would be called out hard for it, why is it different with something like echo drops? If you trigger that trap at the wrong time its over.

Being prepared for a likely scenario is just as necessary as anything else imho.

But in the case of a mnk pulling a whole room when he should have known better, as a healer I would have used an echo drop and waved at him while I watched him get ko. Do it all the time with people who pull early in dungeons or primals. Refusing to heal trolls or people who wanna Leroy Jenkins something can be much more satisfying than just not being able to.

[KageTokage]

It's not duty finder, but I die inside a little whenever someone kills me at OS7 because they decided to use their gap closer without any forewarning while Abandonment was active.

I honestly kind of miss when the window before the fear kicks in was smaller because it meant both of you would die if that happened, whereas now the offender can get away with it due having enough time to move near the MT, but the unknowing player likely won't be able to react quickly enough.

The guy didn't even have the decency to apologize afterward.

[Mesarthim]

I was given Brayflox Hard on paladin for roulette. Had a sprout healer (with a 43 weapon so I pulled accordingly), a sprout dragoon, and a not new BLM.

But if it were a normal run I wouldn't be sharing this story. The problem of this run was the BLM. I had a stupid ice mage. It's no wonder things were dying so slowly when all I see is blizzardblizzardblizzardblizzardblizzard Blizzard III. I got on his case after the second boss but I'm not sure he ever cast fire II even when I saw the occasional fire or fire III.

Though despite that at least the final boss went well, albeit slowly.

Bonus Story:

Normal Kefka on Paladin. Wiped at 33% and it was pretty far into his final phase with the eye mechanic. At least 5 people had absolutely no idea what they were doing and there was no bonus. That was by far the worst run I have ever seen. One dps took the penalty and I gladly left right then and there. There's such things as an occasional wipe and simply try again and clear, and then there's lost causes. That was one of them. I've never seen a party so bad he was only at 33% about 10 minutes into the duty.

Yep, no new people yet FIVE people at a time get hit by the "stare at the eye" mechanic.

[Enla]

Was in a Tsukiyomi farm party that disbanded after barely any attempts due to glacial DPS and a lack of understanding of mechanics. Everyone in the party had a weapon, everyone had cleared at some point. Yet we still got to 100% during the Add phase which never happened even during learning parties that I was a part of, with people constantly making little mistakes. We eventually hit enrage with 20% health left, which I've also never seen before... Healing was fine, we weren't having to constantly pick people off the floor, so I watched the party the second time around to see what was happening.

I think one of the DPS was literally just spamming '1' over and over again because they were so low on the enmity meter that the healers were outpacing them by leaps and bounds... This wasn't even from an enmity drop either as they never went beyond last place on the enmity meter, while everyone else was almost fighting the tanks for aggro. It doesn't fully account for the rest of the shenanigans, but it just made me ':/' at the whole thing... If you're not willing to at least try, please don't be in a farm party.

Also had HM Nidhogg for trial that was fine except for the random person going off on the party for daring to say thank you once the fight was over... It's been a weird day today for group content.

[Mesarthim]

So real talk here. Why is it a lot of warrior offtanks I get love just spamming butcher's block? I don't think the extra 20 potency outweighs the benefits of the path combo's gauge increase. They also never shirk me, forcing me to use a lot more enmity combos or tank stance (short of just letting them take it and being done with it entirely). I even watched this guy and he was using a very particular 3 step swing enmity generator.

I mean I already know the answer but I figure I'd get second opinions on this.

[BillyKaplan]

Just ran Wanderer's Palace NM for 50/60. We had an RDM and a BLM, so I figured, nice, aoe party. BLM kept spamming Fire III even after I asked them to use Fire II and kept attacking targets despite other enemies having the "1" mark on them, so ofc they pulled a lot of enemies and triggered a lot of mechanics I have never seen before because I started playing in HW.
It was a bit of a learning experience, I suppose

[KaivaC]

Allow me to paint you a picture…of an angry healer Miqote, shaking her head angrily as the boss dragon of the Stone Vigil normal fell. Her lip curled in disgust. “Twice…you’ve only used a cooldown twice in this whole place,” she chided, clapping slowly. “Well done.”

This was an interesting run, for sure. I was running alongside a NIN sprout as my co-DPS. The tank kept saying something about going further along as we went through the dungeon. No idea what they were talking about, but they did have an RP tag – not sure if that had any significance. Around the area where you have to climb some steps and a flying dragon comes down to shoot out fire, tossing out my AOE, I ended up snatching aggro on one of the adds. It wasn’t one of those gradual buildup aggro snatches – I launched one AOE and I flat out snatched up aggro on one enemy, while the healer somehow got another one. The Aery that I accidentally grabbed tore me to pieces – Diversion did not help at all…my oh-shit-I-have-aggro-go-Diversion was only up for maybe 5 seconds before I died.

When I rezzed, the tank said that we were too close to the mobs and implied that we got cleaved. I pointed out that aggro was why I died, and I would be more proactive in making sure to use Diversion/Lucid to prevent that from happening again. Healer pointed out that the mobs did not cleave, the tank just didn’t hold hate. On the first boss, I like to stand on the ledge just before you go into the arena for reasons. This bothered the tank for some reason, as they would not pull the boss until I actually got into the arena. “Down,” was the only thing the tank told me…and like an obedient puppy, I jumped into the arena.

We keep going. When we make it to the second boss, my first little jewel from this run happens. I ask my co-DPS if they want to take the cannons, or should I, completely forgetting that they were new to the run. Tank immediately says that the cannons are only in hard mode. I promise you, the healer did not miss a beat. “Are you missing some brain cells or something?” they said. The tank then pulls. I take care of the cannons, we beat the boss, and then we move on.
We get to that corridor with the ice spirit adds, and that’s where the second gem of this run occurs. 3 ice spirit adds and an Aery – they kill the tank, and then the rest of us. Healer goes off. “For the love of god, use your ******* cooldowns. You’ve used exactly 1 cooldown in this whole run.” And then proceeded to refuse to cast protect. Tank asked for it, and the angry Miqote said that she was no longer enabling the tank’s behavior. So we went like that for the rest of the run – no protect, no cooldowns. Me being me, I kept asking the sprout if they wanted popcorn.

Poor guy must not have known what to do in a situation like this. I suppose the healer kept a special watch on the tank, which brings this story right back to the starting paragraph. Not really used to seeing salt in duty finders, but maybe something changed with tanks in the last month that more often than not, tanks are not using cooldowns.