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[Alleo]

You realize the devs can easily monitor how long people are spending on Ultimate through the game itself so they dont need to listen to rumors.

Still does not change the fact that the world first group did not raid for 21 hours per day and that it was a rumor. Yoshida stated that raiding so many hours is not good thus they seemingly heard the rumor and not numbers. (Or somehow the world first group lied and did so many hours which I cant believe)

[jameseoakes]

This is just SE caving in to the casuals that complain about Ultimate being a waste of ressources while not even denting current EX/Savage fights. A shame really.

Also makes up most of the player base. I don't think people wanting content like Ultimate do themselves any favours hating on the bulk of the player base

[Rita1989]

Still does not change the fact that the world first group did not raid for 21 hours per day and that it was a rumor. Yoshida stated that raiding so many hours is not good thus they seemingly heard the rumor and not numbers. (Or somehow the world first group lied and did so many hours which I cant believe)

This decision to cancel it was probably made months ago though so its kind of irrelevant regardless, also I think they said they do look through the logs of world first to see how progress is going on the fight and make sure no bugs/cheats are being used, so they likely know exactly how long they put into clearing the fight.

[Remedi]

Still, 21 hours one single day is not healthy. As far I know the norm was around more than 12 and less than 16 per day, so not that big of a difference.

It's not even sure they really did that 21 hourse, Zeppe worded it as he wanted them to do that not that they really did that, besides this was never a problem before I don't get why it should be such a LE GASP! moment now

[Zojha]

Cynic guess:
They realized the viewership was much less than for the first Ultimate and decided they need bigger gaps between the fights to make it more of a special spectacle, because the fights are otherwise largely worthless in terms of engagement value due to their small participation niché.

[Asiragan]

Still, 21 hours one single day is not healthy. As far I know the norm was around more than 12 and less than 16 per day, so not that big of a difference.

That's not for the devs to decide how much time players spend on a game. Sure, that's not healthy but so what? They are adults, not children. Let them do what they want. And that's only if the rumor was true to begin with.

What's the next step? "We will release the next extension but you can only play for one hour before the server kicks you out. We don't want you too spent to much time online.".



No, that's just an excuse they're making to reduce yet again the content released, much like that absurd content spreading for 4.3. And the "people asked for it" is most certainly a lie. I never saw anyone complaining about the Ultimate mode, even for those participating.


Seriously, since the beginning of Stormblood, the decisions taken are more and more crappy

[Remedi]

@Zojha Then they haven't realized to who they were designing the fight for and I honestly don't believe it was the case unless you know SOMEHOW expected something different from the partecipation pool of gordias/midas and second coil savage (because that group we are talking about).
Frankly I don't agree with the worthless content agrument because that implies that personal choices dictates how content is valuable to the game globally, which is wrong imho, but if we really have to, well I guess I could say the same for anything PvP related, ehi those mounts and titles won't be coming back eh!

[NoctusT]

Does anyone know if they're even going to raise the difficulty of current savage? Or just keep it the same?

[KageTokage]

It's kind of sad that it took people cheating at Ultimate by datamining the gaol targets well before the markers even went out to make them consider stepping up the security measures to prevent people from doing that.

All of XIV's issues with third party programs can be linked to the fact that the data being sent to and from the servers is basically a open book for anyone who knows how to access it.

[kuma_aus]

2 Ultimate fights per expansion is perfect if we're going to patch 3.5 like previous expansions.

If we have 1 fight every odd patch, the last one would be in 3.5 which would be just before an expansion.

I would rather have the devs who work on Ultimate fights work on creating content for the expansion when it's getting close to launch.