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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    Plus it'd piss off the easiest to piss off group in the game and it'd be funny.
    Keep antagonizing the majority, and keep losing the support of the majority. Your hurting your cause - unless that was your point? In which case, well done, clever tactic!


    I will reiterate, for the sake of not having my words bent in the future: If they add it, great for you. It won't affect how I play the game, or how much I like it. But it's a horrible precedent regardless. I will actually be horrified if I wake up one day to see half the male NPC population in Limsa, Ul'dah or Gridania wearing mini-skirts, high heels and bridesmaid dresses just because "inclusivity". It will ruin the world the lore time strove to build. Tell me that won't happen if you'd like, the OP on this thread is proving me right...

    I'd be less offended by the notion if they conjured up a city-state that was all about reversed gender roles. That could be fun to explore, in fact. But it has to make sense in the game world, and I will always utterly oppose changes to the game just because your feelings are hurt.

    And to those that say "I want this JUST to piss certain people off", you're no better than the trolls and bigots that would respond in kind.

    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    So much physical harm can result from cross dressing, this sickness must be purged! Next thing you know EVERYONE will be FORCED to wear a dress! Then what? How will i know which pixels to sexualize and which ones not to? Oh what a world!
    Nice straw man. Let me respond in kind: "I don't know how to argue, so I'll flail my arms and cry really loudly. Waaa!"

    Not a nice feeling, is it?
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    Last edited by Odstarva; 06-15-2018 at 07:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    Keep antagonizing the majority, and keep losing the support of the majority. Your hurting your cause - unless that was your point? In which case, well done, clever tactic!
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    I really don't care about you or your opinion at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    I really don't care about you or your opinion at all.
    What they say is true. You, part of a small group of people, want to antagonize a larger group of people. Your perversion is not a good reason to try and start fights
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamenkuro View Post
    What they say is true. You, part of a small group of people, want to antagonize a larger group of people. Your perversion is not a good reason to try and start fights
    Ai'ght "Man seeking woman" in the signature dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamenkuro View Post
    Everything this guy's been saying.
    Successful troll is successful. Gentle reminder not to feed if he decides to come back.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriaFairchild View Post
    With that said, that outfit looks abominable on males.
    If we're judging by sexual appeal (which is fair given the type of outfit we're talking about), then it looks abominable on everyone except male Highlanders and lady Roes in my opinion. If I was grand master of XIV like some people ITT wish they were, I'd ban every other race/gender combo from wearing it just to suit my sensibilities!

    As to the topic, if they add a male NPC in the outfit, cool. If not, oh well. As stated above I don't think it looks good on most people so I don't really have a stake in it. Changing existing NPCs might ruffle too many feathers -the replies at the mere idea of it in this thread alone speak to that- but if they add some new ones later that'd be fine. Apparently there are new attractions coming to the Saucer so that would be a good opportunity.

    I think I've said this a hundred times now but if you don't like it, that's okay. You're absolutely allowed to feel that way. But using your feelings as a reason to deny other people's requests is outright stupid and selfish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    But using your feelings as a reason to deny other people's requests is outright stupid and selfish.
    Let's be real, none of the players can deny or accept requests. It's ultimately up to the devs. You can scream as much as you want, if they don't listen...then they don't listen. (Hint: look at the PvP forum).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    I really don't care about you or your opinion at all.
    You should, because you're not changing any hearts or minds with that attitude. You're yelling loudly and angrily, and on the internet that just makes you an easy target.

    That's not how you gain support - that's how you end up in an echo-chamber.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    miss the point where op said "NPC in gold saucer" not you having a fever dream of males wearing skirts all over eorzea (the amount of roe/miqote/highlanders players i see do this anyway).
    i doubt a few NPC in gold saucer is gonna be this lore breaking thing come on now.
    Fair enough. I'm not against NPCs in the gold saucer wearing it. I wouldn't mind if this was a gold-saucer event, or if it was part of a new GATE. Nor would I particularly mind if male NPCs wearing bunny suits in this area start showing up. But the principle the vast majority of people on this thread are putting forward, which to quote a few would be "just to piss people off", is a horrible reason to do -anything- and I still think it's bad precedent to do any change just because inclusivity.

    I hate having to repeat myself, but I swear people don't read the whole post when they disagree with the underlying opinion in it. Counterproductive.
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    Last edited by Odstarva; 06-15-2018 at 07:25 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You should, because you're not changing any hearts or minds with that attitude. You're yelling loudly and angrily, and on the internet that just makes you an easy target.

    That's not how you gain support - that's how you end up in an echo-chamber.
    Since you're really adamant about me noticing you, please learn how to read before you argue on the internet. Thanks.

    This thread just reminds me that individuals who are like you, who hold such reactionary knee jerk feelings to a topic like this, really aren't worth putting up with. Done it enough IRL, and all it leads me to believe is your words aren't worth the air or space they're spoken in or typed on.

    "because itd offend me!!!111" is all you're saying and it's stupid.
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    Last edited by Alaray; 06-15-2018 at 07:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
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    miss the point where op said "NPC in gold saucer" not you having a fever dream of males wearing skirts all over eorzea (the amount of roe/miqote/highlanders players i see do this anyway).
    i doubt a few NPC in gold saucer is gonna be this lore breaking thing come on now.

    Quote Originally Posted by kamenkuro View Post
    No, it'd be creepy.
    only if that's your thought process .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    Keep antagonizing the majority, and keep losing the support of the majority.
    I don't think you're in the majority.
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