Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Tsumdere]

Omg Hi o/ Sorry if I sucked, my healers... they did not like the AoE heals it seems. Sadness. I died and I hate dying >.<

XD It's all good. We were in the same party (I was the SMN) and I ended up tanking an add first boss and dying because our tank was allergic to tanking. ;w;

[Zefiris]

Playing as Bard. today roulette trial gave me Tsukuyomi. After 2 wipes I only said "Well, I am noob in trials. Better wait by melee in my place" and leave, eating 30 minutes of punishment. But... my karma is strong and after 30 minutes... Tsukuyomi again lol Well, around 20%, both healers died, but Red Mage ress one and that healer used LB3. Success. Anyway, I died 2x as usual, and nevertheless I received 1 commendation o.ô

That trial and raid Ridorana Lighthouse, generally I only have utility by use reflesh and buffs xD My 47k HP as bard only sometimes can avoid deaths. Things as Vulnerability Up are evil >.<

[Iscah]

The healers? Around 30k a piece. Neither had done their level 70 job quest so both were wearing a mix of shire, dungeon and nq gear including matching level 66 weapons - one was hq though. [...] One of the healers even said this was the third time he queued in and when I told him about his job quest he said "yeah they told me that last time but I just wanna get this done while I'm here x3"

Though I don't think it's fair that they keep queuing in after being told that they don't have the strength for it, I can understand the feeling of not wanting to have to turn around and go do something completely different when you're right here at the climax of the story.

The actual issue may be that *both* healers are in the same boat - and quite possibly keep re-queuing and being paired up as co-healers again each time instead of getting someone else with the extra power to get everyone through the trial.

[MoroMurasaki]

Though I don't think it's fair that they keep queuing in after being told that they don't have the strength for it, I can understand the feeling of not wanting to have to turn around and go do something completely different when you're right here at the climax of the story.

The actual issue may be that *both* healers are in the same boat - and quite possibly keep re-queuing and being paired up as co-healers again each time instead of getting someone else with the extra power to get everyone through the trial.

I agree. I have gotten this on WHM or AST before and had a cohealer who mostly wanted to hug the floor and it was fine because one person in i340 or so can heal that while eating a sandwich, but in my contacts they're both from Jenova so I wonder if they kept queueing together?

I dunno. Either way, was not fun. Not cool keep wasting other people's queues either.

[Nestama]

For the love of staying alive! Tanks please go into tank stance the second a DPS takes hate from you and cannot use Diversion and Purification! I don't care if it's just Alte Roite normal, I shouldn't be switching into (Riddle of) Earth Stance just so I don't die.

[Ruf]

For the love of staying alive! Tanks please go into tank stance the second a DPS takes hate from you and cannot use Diversion and Purification! I don't care if it's just Alte Roite normal, I shouldn't be switching into (Riddle of) Earth Stance just so I don't die.

Theses are the same players that criticize players on a parse & insist on maximizing dps on a TANKING JOB(same players that make a healer work twice as hard), Plds that want to full time sword oath, Dark knights that think Grit is overrated & Warriors that think they are strongest dd if they dont use defiance.Sure some tanks can do both, but root of the issue that you complain about is exactly what i just stated, theres more variables but the main thing to blame is idiocy.

(Generally speaking of course)

P.s: At least tanks & mnk can change stance mid-battles, to the opposite of some other jobs...

[KaivaC]

Theses are the same players that criticize players on a parse & insist on maximizing dps on a TANKING JOB(same players that make a healer work twice as hard), Plds that want to full time sword oath, Dark knights that think Grit is overrated & Warriors that think they are strongest dd if they dont use defiance.Sure some tanks can do both, but root of the issue that you complain about is exactly what i just stated, theres more variables but the main thing to blame is idiocy.

(Generally speaking of course)

P.s: At least tanks & mnk can change stance mid-battles, to the opposite of some other jobs...

This...has nothing at all to do with parsers. No need to overgeneralize people based on your feelings on the matter. I think the majority of us on the forums are tired of parsers discussion for the time being, so maybe don't bring it into a tale that really has nothing to do with parsers?

[Ruf]

This...has nothing at all to do with parsers. No need to overgeneralize people based on your feelings on the matter. I think the majority of us on the forums are tired of parsers discussion for the time being, so maybe don't bring it into a tale that really has nothing to do with parsers?

I thought you changed race/avatar again?! That surely matter, but anyway I generalized, not overgeneralized.I see tanks losing hate from dps stances everyday almost.

[Legion88]

Theses are the same players that criticize players on a parse & insist on maximizing dps on a TANKING JOB(same players that make a healer work twice as hard), Plds that want to full time sword oath, Dark knights that think Grit is overrated & Warriors that think they are strongest dd if they dont use defiance.Sure some tanks can do both, but root of the issue that you complain about is exactly what i just stated, theres more variables but the main thing to blame is idiocy.

(Generally speaking of course)

This has nothing to do with parsers at all.
This was just an example of people just hear the DPS-Stance "meta" for tanks, but don't know how to perform it but try anyways without further researches because it has to be rigth if it is meta.
This is a matter of hearsay of a "meta/tactic/guide" and clinging to it without the full knowledge, gear and/or party composition you need to perform it and the mindset of lowest bar playing.

As you conclude the root of this is personal idiocy, but not a parser.

P.s: At least tanks & mnk can change stance mid-battles, to the opposite of some other jobs...

Sorry to say but in my opinion stances are mostly useless if they don't alter or impact the gameplay of the job like BRDs songs. Better no stances at all instead of MNK/PLD/DRK stances, which you rarely switch at all or just in niche situations.

[Nestama]

Exactly, it's personal idiocy. In my static, we have a WAR (MT for most fights in Savage) who exclusively tanks in Deliverance and never uses Butchers Block (it's the end of the world if he has to). He never loses hate and this is because: everyone uses their hate dumps when available (except Purification) and the OT Shirks him every so often (after using Provoke).

I am fine with tanks in roulette wanting to stay in DPS stance, but if they're going to lose hate to a DPS Job, then they're going to have to do what they're designed for. Tank. ESPECIALLY if you're teamed with a newbie tank who doesn't know what Shirk does, and/or doesn't Provoke->Shirk.