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  1. #61
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I agree OP and the adding that fate like thing was also annoying. I actually watched the cutscene and when was out there was an attack going off so i died.. Surely by this time they could have changed something up a bit and be more creative for a change but nope, lol
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  2. #62
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    Light Khah
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrimace View Post

    Return to Ivalice is a celebration of Matsuno-based FF titles. Seeing all of the references is very charming.
    And they needed a big filler quest for that reference? I mean they already have the characters from the game, the bosses, the names for location. Shoulndt that be enough? Or they could have let us get the wine in one single little quest that takes us to one place, gather it and then get some nice new information from the NPC. You would have the wine reference without the annoying filler and maybe we would have gotten more real information and lore. I mean when they said that this would be a long and epic storyline I did not think that one quest would just let us kill random red chocobos that are not native to Yanxia or fetch a wine for someone that costs more than an estate and would have us travel to the other side of the world.
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  3. #63
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    Ghastly's Avatar
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    Ast Eryut
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I liked that quest a lot I hope they don't remove quests like it.
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  4. #64
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    Barachim Vandal
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    Phoenix
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    "We re going to attack the garlean outpost in northern Thanalan. But before, the primal-killing, immortal, holy chosen one Warrior of Light needs to deliver stew to hungry soldiers first." (The Ladle In The Darkness Main Story Quest)

    Yep.
    Those two quests aren't comparable at all. Even if you just deliver food, it's important. Like Felis pointed out, it's a morale boost for the soldiers, seeing the Warrior of Light who'll fight beside them. But most importantly, I don't feel like a complete idiot, giving hungry and probably scared soldiers, some needed sustenance for the upcoming fight. During this Raid Quest line though, everyone is doing something important, and we get waved off to waste some time, and being treated like a lackey in the process.
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  5. #65
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    Gyson Kincaid
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    It was extremely low-effort and clearly meant to pad the amount of time it took to unlock the new raid. It stuck out like a sore thumb. And this is coming from someone who actually interacts with every relevant NPC to catch all the hidden dialogue between quest steps (rather than just clicking on the one with the icon).

    It's the first time a quest in this game has actually annoyed my friend and I (and, yes, we have done the Moogle quests - we actually like Moogle quests, so you needed to have dropped to a particular level of bad to accomplish this feat).
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  6. #66
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    Rofel Dokfel
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Tbf that wine stuff was a looong build up to a short punchline: bacon bread.

    That guy was a Orran-like character (dresses the same and even the hair is like the original when he changes job). Since he is the guy writing stuff for the theater, I believe they tried to pay homage to Matsuno since he made FFXIV's bacon bread on this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EF3n5_LlSQ

    And he asks again for bacon bread after we clear the raid.

    And... that's it.

    Don't get me wrong, I love side content and every bit of lore. But that felt just out of place and with bad timing.
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  7. #67
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    Fyce Alvey
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    I mean, taking a bottle out of a blind lalafell's hands and then proceeding with a plan which is the most disrespectful thing we could do to what I considered as a friend of the Warrior of Light (probably not anymore now)... Sounds like something the "Hero of Eorzea" would do, right?

    I don't care about fetch quests. It's an MMORPG, they are expected every now and then. But please, writers, don't turn my character into some kind of big jerk, taking advantage of a disabled lalafell and now former friend whose story is quite humbling.
    Even the ascians aren't that mean.
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  8. #68
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrimace View Post
    Honest question: do people realize the Wandering Dramaturge is the game's insert for Yasumi Matsuno? He's not just 'some guy.'
    I don't know who that is, and the game certainly doesn't tell me. He's "some guy" to me, and to the WoL he's definitely "some guy".

    The fetch quest was a little long, but Hancock made it worth it. It was even better if you talk to Gegeruju after you obtain the bottle of wine. Hancock really instrumented the perfect ruse... And we were just pawns in it, despite us also getting something out of it.
    Hancock was about when I completely lost my mind at how inane this whole thing was. He conveniently just shows up out of nowhere to solve a problem that doesn't need solving by screwing someone else over for no particular reason except that we need a bottle of wine because some guy asked for one.

    It's bad fanfic level writing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    And they needed a big filler quest for that reference? I mean they already have the characters from the game, the bosses, the names for location. Shoulndt that be enough? Or they could have let us get the wine in one single little quest that takes us to one place, gather it and then get some nice new information from the NPC. You would have the wine reference without the annoying filler and maybe we would have gotten more real information and lore. I mean when they said that this would be a long and epic storyline I did not think that one quest would just let us kill random red chocobos that are not native to Yanxia or fetch a wine for someone that costs more than an estate and would have us travel to the other side of the world.
    Exactly. If they wanted to do a reference to the wine, they could have asked us to get a bottle of wine. We go, get a bottle of wine, come back. That takes 30 seconds, and while it's a fetch quest, it lets them get the reference in without wasting loads of people's time.
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    Last edited by Tridus; 05-24-2018 at 11:56 PM.
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  9. #69
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    I don't know who that is, and the game certainly doesn't tell me. He's "some guy" to me, and to the WoL he's definitely "some guy".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasumi_Matsuno
    You can call him the father of Ivalice.
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-25-2018 at 12:01 AM.

  10. #70
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    It's easy to tell who isn't a genuine fan of Ivalice. The entire point of that stage of the quest chain was to build up a reference to Vagrant Story. A subtle one, granted, though a reference nonetheless. The main location where Vagrant Story takes place is Lea Monde - which is famous for it's wine. One of the bottles involved is even called "Lea Monde' outright.
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