Eos and Selene Update For Stormblood

[Llynd]

I think i would like to see Selene offensive. Replace silent dusk with a dps spell. ( something that hits depending on the dots the sch has put on the target for ex). This way you'd have to chose between healing fairy if that moment of the fight needs much heals, or for more dps if it's not hiting too hard.
Needs a buff on Fey wind as well, that's obvious.

[Poptartzilla]

I think i would like to see Selene offensive. Replace silent dusk with a dps spell. ( something that hits depending on the dots the sch has put on the target for ex). This way you'd have to chose between healing fairy if that moment of the fight needs much heals, or for more dps if it's not hiting too hard.
Needs a buff on Fey wind as well, that's obvious.

Maybe even a exstend DOT skill

[era1Ne]

You really can't call sch a true pet class when one pet is almost useless the other is somewhat useless at higher levels and they haven't been updated for 2 expansions. I feel Eos is a toggle skill that you just turn on and leave on because she's just there for like emotional support . I've brought this up many places and I see many people agree that they need a update but I just keep hoping someone on the ffxiv team sees it and brings it up

Did square enix ever call scholar the true pet class? *

Imo they have to do something about selene, because at the moment she is pretty useless. I personally grown to like the idea that selene is the bahamut of smn of sorts. You activate dissipation while eos is out and for 30 seconds you get selene with a different toolkit as the old selene. After the time is over you get eos back. For me thats the best solution, because at the moment selene is useless and i dislike the idea of creating toolkits for the fairys, that force you to switch between them manually (more than) a few times over the course of a fight.

For instance the idea that eos is single target and selene aoe. I imagine this to be very clunky, especially in situations in which you have to react fast to prevent a wipe, after the other healer died or something. While you can work around it at the moment, the AI can be unresponsive as it is and if you have to change the fairy + wait for the "fairy death" animation + the summon animation, the group will probably already be hit by the aoe damage and die.

* After all the vision of the developer is important to know here, since they create the skills and balance the class. I am just curious, if square ever said something outside of the lore description about scholar or what their vision is. The community has different opinions on it after all. Some call this class the "shield healer", other "pet healer" and a few even "ogcd healer".

Edit:

In an age long past, when mankind flourished under the radiance of arcane mastery, the island of Vylbrand was home to a city-state called Nym. Though the history of that age tells of countless wars waged with earth-shattering incantations, it was the brilliant strategic maneuvering of Nym's scholars that allowed their mundane army of mariners to throw back would-be conquerers time and again. These learned men and women defended the freedom of their tiny nation with their unique command over spell-weaving faeries, utilizing the creatures' magicks to heal the wounded and bolster the strength of their allies.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/scholar/

[Poptartzilla]

I love how you wanted to split the fairies and having them on equal grounds of one single and one aoe. Also going off the lore. I think it will be great to see how we can add more boost instead of just healing boost. Maybe a attack, defense, crit boost -also having the fairy gauge bring out both of the fairies instead one single target heal to really use them effectively.

[Ordoric]

i have never liked the idea of the fey healer, if feels like a druid wow or a warlock form D&D not a true combat class tactical mage

[IllyaPrisma]

The fairy is a constant heal tic that compliments Scholars already fantastic healing, and it has no MP cost. I don't really feel the fairies need improvement, especially Eos, who has absolutely monstrous CD's. You need to understand from an objective stand point why Eos got nerfed. In Stormblood, every healer received access to Largesse. SCH having access to both Largesse and Fey Illumination at 20% would definitely be too much, especially since AST lost their healing potency increase on Synastry. Whispering Dawn is still extremely powerful, since it's always tied with Rouse and has massive uptime. And Fey Covenant is just complimenting the power house that Eos already is. I disagree with you that the fairies are "meh" or weak. They are not. Selene may need some type of adjustment, because she is only specifically used for pre-pull Fey Wind, but other than that, fairies are still a very powerful aspect of Scholar's kit.

[Carighan]

For both, I feel the biggest thing missing is a "focus" button. Pet, I want you to focus on this tank over here. This doesn't mean you cannot heal other people, but if this person is below, say, 80%, you heal them. And you do nothing else! Understood?

Then for Selene, I don't know. If she's an offensive support, then she should have just the basic heal, and more than 1 silence on a long CD. Buff strips, debuffs, etc. Eos probably needs a number buff more than anything else.

[basketofseals]

I think people underestimate Selene's haste buff. Whispering dawn is pretty godlike and it's hard to give up, but last I checked, that haste actually mathed out to about equal with AST cards.

I don't really think forcing your co-healer to cast an additional AoE heal every so often really outweighs the dps potential of having a second AST essentially(or the first one I guess if your partner is a WHM).

[NobleWinter]

Selene is kinda neat when left on Sic. Especially with 2 Scholars because it turns out they wont cast Fey Wind if it's already up. The Silence is surprisingly useful too if you let her use it on her own cause in giant pulls it can be difficult for anyone to target the right enemy responsible for an AoE fast enough for it to matter. I actually really enjoy double Scholar parties with no Eos because alternating Emergency Tactics on its short Cool Down works wonders especially with Indomitability and Fey Union thrown in the mix. It takes some coordination but you really can't beat the combo. Sacred Soil can be out almost constantly too.

[Poptartzilla]

I think people underestimate Selene's haste buff. Whispering dawn is pretty godlike and it's hard to give up, but last I checked, that haste actually mathed out to about equal with AST cards.

I don't really think forcing your co-healer to cast an additional AoE heal every so often really outweighs the dps potential of having a second AST essentially(or the first one I guess if your partner is a WHM).

Hands down yes her haste is amazing and it helps out of double sch but other than that she has nothing else to really bring .