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  1. #11
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    Otorinth's Avatar
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    Otorinth Uzoth
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Luminarium View Post
    it's currently terrible as a tank class tho. it requires much higher skill level to pull the same dps as a war/pld when it comes to raiding that the class became close to irrelevant. instead of making it a dps class, i'd rather add scourge back
    Being the worst tank at the moment doesn't make it a "terrible" tank. You think adding Scourge back is going to fix everything? That won't make up for the loss of Low-Blow reset and Reprisal potencies/utilities. You can't just unga-unga in more damage and call it a day.
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  2. #12
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    Luminarium Arcturus
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GunksFoy View Post
    Doesn't change the fact it's never going to be a DPS, nor should it be. I believe DRK is getting adjustments in 4.3 iirc though.
    i never wanted it to be a dps too. i remember having too much fun with it back in HW. I do hope they lower MP costs for grit, TBN and dark passenger (shield oath costs 600mp while grit costs about 3x and pld gets free shelltron whenever they want that blocks 20+% damage)
    Quote Originally Posted by Otorinth View Post
    Being the worst tank at the moment doesn't make it a "terrible" tank. You think adding Scourge back is going to fix everything? That won't make up for the loss of Low-Blow reset and Reprisal potencies/utilities. You can't just unga-unga in more damage and call it a day.
    but that's what they do to most classes each patch anyway lmao
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  3. #13
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Or, learn to play it better, and/or just stick to a "better" tank.
    If you want to play a big sword DPS, well... Samurai is now a thing.
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  4. #14
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    The sheer amount of reworks that would be needed to convert a tank into a DPS job would be outrageous. And if they did do it, SAM would have to likewise be converted into a tank since the devs co-designed the jobs. Or at least, what we know as DRK could have been SAM, but the devs chose DRK as a more fitting theme for a job for HW.

    So that's two communities of players that are now left in the dust. That said, would I find it cool if there were a DPS spec for DRK and a tank spec for SAM? Sure, actually. Since jobs are weapon-locked, you run into the issue of people wanting to be a tank SAM and a DPS DRK who have their job fantasies not only unfulfilled, but also completely locked away by the fact their job is already in the game.

    I do find it lolzy that people are jumping to protect DRK as if it's the most popular tank and its loss as a tank would drastically shake tanking popularity as we know it though.
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  5. #15
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    While we're asking for hilariously impractical things, can we create a new support role and put BRD and RDM into it, convert MNK into a tank, and turn WHM and BLM into a single class with two jobs like SCH/SMN?
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  6. #16
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Can we also create Vanguard, Stargazer, Gunner, Fencer and Bushi classes for the expansion jobs too?
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  7. #17
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MonteCristo View Post
    Seriously... just revert it back to the glory days of being a high dps job with blood attacks/dark magic and introduce a new tank altogether. Been disappointed with it since it was changed to a tank tbh. Please consider this
    dark knight never was a glory dps job in the entire ff history bcs the old games dont have a role system, its a knight with heavy armor from the begining itself and is perfect for being a tank job, its our tank job and should never change end of the story.
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  8. #18
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    SiriusSaltstice's Avatar
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    Sirius Vagus
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Luminarium View Post
    snip
    Okay? Yes it's in a rough spot, but its not the first time a tank was in a terrible place. HW PLD was absolute garbage, so by this logic PLD should have been deleted and a new tank should've been the solution for Stormblood.

    Am I justifying DRK's problems? No. It does need some love, but I think changing it to a DPS would not fix its problems, as then the entire class would require a rework and the whole game itself would have to undergo a redesign to fit the new drk and tank in. It sounds like way too much effort.

    DRK can do the content fine as a tank . A good majority of Omega so far is mixed with magic heavy damage, so it thrives there. All it honestly needs is a damage buff to get it up to speed with the other tanks(and maybe a QoL change to make LD have a unique value other than "it's not HG's 7 minutes").
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  9. #19
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    MonteCristo's Avatar
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    Lamonte Cristo
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    Seraph
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Guessing none of you played ffxi....new fans no og's....lol makes sense
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  10. #20
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MonteCristo View Post
    Guessing none of you played ffxi....new fans no og's....lol makes sense
    This isn't FFXI-2.
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