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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Housing reclamation was made after ppl complained about houses held by ppl that stopped playing the game completely but it's much better to forgot that and still pushing this nonsense over you know asking them to fix the system.
    It's easy to see things only from the facet you want to see but you might miss the greater picture, ture it migh've been as you say, but I know several ppl on my server that were actually happy for the change since the main problem of housing was and still is avaibility.
    Don't worry though I'm not gonna press for this matter since I couldn't care less, though I wonder why so many ppl complaining about the staleness of the game keep using this "BUT MUH HOUSE" argument, if you don't value your time worth it on the game anymore and you don't see change coming why keeping the house at all?
    You can have house reclamation and still allow breaks. The problem with the reclamation is it's too short for anything longer than not subbing for 1 month. But there's a problem with that: In 1 month, there will still be nothing new!

    The minimum I would consider to be reasonable, from a game content drought perspective, is 3 months. In reality, the content cycle is 6 months long, so that would be ideal.

    And guess what? If people have truly quit the game, their house would STILL get reclaimed whether it's 1 month or 6.

    But no. Making housing available may seem like the purpose behind the change to losing a house, but the reality is that they want you to stay subbed. That's why it's so short. They'd never admit it, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Yoshida says a lot of BS. The housing reclamation goes against that very concept.
    That's what a lack of hindsight does (that was said before 2.1 came out). You can say "we will never do this" at first, but once you see a problem a year or so later, "we have to do this" becomes the next best (unpopular) option. Imagine if someone bought a personal mansion, did nothing with it and then left the game permanently. Without housing reclamation, that plot of land would go on to be a waste of resources, since no one can do anything with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    But no. Making housing available may seem like the purpose behind the change to losing a house, but the reality is that they want you to stay subbed. That's why it's so short. They'd never admit it, though.
    Blame everything on development team for house reclaiming is simply doesn't make sense.
    For the people without house, they wont tolerate reclaim grace period longer than 60 calendar days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubblegum01 View Post
    Reason 2, I can’t be an effective casual.
    I like to do dungeons and progress through the story. However the item level (ilevel) made it difficult for me to do both of these.
    This one makes no sense to me, and I say that as a casual. You don't need a high ilvl while leveling. I've done nothing but the MSQ and the dungeons and trials connected to it and I've gotten gear just from doing that. And I'm also a red mage. DPS queues are long, I agree, but that's the price we pay for not wanting to tank or heal.

    I'm not going to comment on the rest of your points because I disagree with them. I'm a big story guy, so for me, FFXIV is thoroughly engaging. But the above point struck me as particularly odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    You can have house reclamation and still allow breaks. The problem with the reclamation is it's too short for anything longer than not subbing for 1 month. But there's a problem with that: In 1 month, there will still be nothing new!

    The minimum I would consider to be reasonable, from a game content drought perspective, is 3 months. In reality, the content cycle is 6 months long, so that would be ideal.

    And guess what? If people have truly quit the game, their house would STILL get reclaimed whether it's 1 month or 6.

    But no. Making housing available may seem like the purpose behind the change to losing a house, but the reality is that they want you to stay subbed. That's why it's so short. They'd never admit it, though.
    You have ignored the community aspect of my point ofc.

    Besides it's a pretty weak excuse for keeping you subbed since not everyone has a house.

    Let's say I don't have a house, what then? How does Yoshida keep me subbed? Where's his master plan?

    Edit; I can understand ppl beign angry about something beign taken from them, but from there starting a witch hunt while deliberately ignoring part of the fact is something I won't ever agree, that said I'd rather not fall in this hole, but it's been too long I've kept this inside me.
    Ppl should start beign more productive with complaints, maybe they'll listened more, frankly the housing system needs rework yet but the argument of yoshida BS everyone to keep them subbed won't ever help.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    That's what a lack of hindsight does (that was said before 2.1 came out). You can say "we will never do this" at first, but once you see a problem a year or so later, "we have to do this" becomes the next best (unpopular) option. Imagine if someone bought a personal mansion, did nothing with it and then left the game permanently. Without housing reclamation, that plot of land would go on to be a waste of resources, since no one can do anything with it.
    You missed the main point: Yoshida saying "you should take a break" goes completely counter to them having added house reclamation (which was added before he made that statement), which doesn't let you take a break. So him saying "you should take a break" is complete BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Besides it's a pretty weak excuse for keeping you subbed since not everyone has a house.
    There are 285,120 houses in the game. Yeah, that's not weak at all. That's a lot of people to keep chained to their subscription.
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    That depends on the person. If they really need a break from the game, then they won't care about losing the house (and potentially the items and gil they can reclaim if they decide not to return in 80 days. 45+35).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    There are 285,120 houses in the game. Yeah, that's not weak at all. That's a lot of people to keep chained to their subscription.
    With the not so insignificant detail that the one house /server was added only this patch and FC /personal housing are in that number.

    You know that there's a server where an entire ward is owned by 2 players? Though I dunno if something happened to them at this time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    That depends on the person. If they really need a break from the game, then they won't care about losing the house (and potentially the items and gil they can reclaim if they decide not to return in 80 days. 45+35).
    There's a huge difference between a break and quitting the game. When you take a break, you typically do care about losing your gil and items, especially when they're items you can't get back or costed you real money.
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