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  1. #71
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    Pharzyr Catro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Read the article is all I have left to say, if you don't you will continue to remain ignorant, I've already backed up my claims with scientific proof that it's not as easy as just donning the armor and running.

    That's just it though. Of course people wearing armor are going to put out more energy and get tired faster than those who don't. Just like trained soldiers wearing military gear are going to get tired quicker than if they weren't wearing any gear at all. Do you think you can run as long as you would normally with 70-100 pounds of military equipment than you would if you didn't? Let's be honest here. In the end the poster you are quoting isn't wrong nor are they making that argument. The point is in full plate armor you can do push ups, cart wheels, run, jog, spring, fight, climb, and any other activity regardless whether or not you were wearing platemail or not. Here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc you wanted evidence in return. Here are people wearing actual armor and are being "hindered."
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  2. #72
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    X'lota Qi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Hey if you're going to have a (final) fantasy it may as well be a fantasy in every sense of the word!
    Even fantasy needs a frame of reference. If it were fantasy in "every sense" it wouldn't have recognizable objects and characters would not have human like features, or even animal like, or features that we would recognize as features....

    Sorry, that probably has very little to do with the topic.
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  3. #73
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    Seraphitia Faro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    In the end the poster you are quoting isn't wrong nor are they making that argument.
    Thank you. I'm glad to see that it wasn't just me writing it too poorly to be understood.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    Here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc you wanted evidence in return. Here are people wearing actual armor and are being "hindered."
    Alas. I linked this very video in my first response to this poster, along with a link to an explanation of the weights of armors. It does not seem he is as willing to look at outside evidence as he is to give it.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Thank you. I'm glad to see that it wasn't just me writing it too poorly to be understood.
    Alas. I linked this very video in my first response to this poster, along with a link to an explanation of the weights of armors. It does not seem he is as willing to look at outside evidence as he is to give it.
    No you weren't wording things poorly but I'm used to this. There's nothing wrong with the poster you are trying to discuss with. The problem is that misconceptions are hard to remove and for a long time it's been generally accepted that "Platemail" weighs around 100 pounds whereas combat platemail was closer to 33-55. There's still plenty of misconceptions too. Such as Katanas being more powerful than Longswords (Which they're not) or that "Samurai" armor can't protect against swords as well as plate (Which is equally untrue). These are now slowly being debunked as well.

    I've studied Kenjutsu for nearly 16 years and have been very involved with HEMA. Knowledge is getting out there and it's getting better. People can find videos of how much "Samurai" armor can stack up against abuse, as well as plate armor. There's still people who think that when it comes to Japanese warfare that the Katana was the typical weapon of the Samurai and that battles were held nearly entirely with swords instead of the Yari and Yumi. Not the Katana.
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    Last edited by Reslin; 04-16-2018 at 08:34 AM.

  5. #75
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post


    Embrace the magic that is skimpy armor.
    The woman wear full plate glamoured as swimsuit, while the person behind her wear swimsuit glamoured as a full plate
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  6. #76
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Considering my current outfit is the taffeta loincloth dyed blue, green summer bikini top, claws of the beast and gagana sandals, dyed blue obv, with a daisy in my hair....I don't think I'm at liberty to take part in this discussion xD
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  7. #77
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    Jox Minosclav
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    why are people bringing real facts about armor protection and movement to a MMO forum? I'll never get it.
    armor in this game and most other MMOs makes ZERO sense. it never aimed to be realistic anyway.
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  8. #78
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    Thepale Rider
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    Would someone explain how our characters can run at full speed; while carrying dozens of pieces of equipment and potentially thousands of items?
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  9. #79
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquilmelody7 View Post
    Would someone explain how our characters can run at full speed; while carrying dozens of pieces of equipment and potentially thousands of items?
    I think my two favorite bits of flavor text are sufficient enough to answer that.



    Sometimes it's better to admit you don't know how it works and just let it be.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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    Arianya Advensten
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    As I like to say: "I'm a 5'1 holy knight cat girl with a sentient self aware sword who fights and slays colossal elder dragons, towering demi-gods, and laser packing battle mechs on a daily bases all cause a giant talking crystal told me to, realism can take the day off for all I care."

    That's not to say we should throw all realism out the window, but hearing "an arrow will hit you in the chest and kill you if you wear cleavage showing armor!" all while my tiny knight girl is blocking the titanic fist falls of a 20 ton dragon or parrying a pulse laser from a space age battle drone just makes me roll my eyes. Too much realism just makes the world as un-fun as too little realism, a good fantasy world knows how to mix both so we can have a solid feeling world AND unrealistic things to enjoy there we can't in real life without over doing one or the other.
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