JP Only

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

The JP Only is not intended to be an insult or discrimination. But on the receiving end due to the phrasing, it's quite easy to interpret it as such.

It's like if someone comes up to you in another language and you respond, "I only speak English". Or something like "Je ne parle pas Francais" (with the little cedilla on the c) or "No hablas Espanol" (with the necessary accents) (I don't know if any of these are correct typed out).

[kwestro]

i remember playing 11 i would play in the morning alot (est) so id play with allot of jpn players. on more then one occasion id be dropped from party with no warning and see my replacement standing in front of me ready to go, lol. those were the good ol days, lol

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LOL! sheesh, that sucks!

[Alyssa]

1. Open google translate, English to Japanese.
2. Copy/paste your request to join their party in Japanese to the leader.
3. Don't say anything while in the party other than "thank you" (ありがとう) when it is over.
4. ???
5. Profit.

Example: 私を招待してください

[RedAffinity]

Surprisingly, in XI, my experience was split. In my 4 years, I was mainly on Alexander and the overall relationship with the JP community and NA was rough. I would frequently see search comments "NA {no thanks}". I spent about a year total on Pheonix and it was nowhere near as extreme.

A lot of times, it helped to start a /tell off by saying hello, good evening, or thank you in Japanese. Even if i just typed it in english letters, they appreciated my effort and that's all it usually took mostly.

[Jennestia]

The JP Only is not intended to be an insult or discrimination. But on the receiving end due to the phrasing, it's quite easy to interpret it as such.

It's actually pretty known it's not discrimination or anything but people always state it as such so their point can be stronger, anyone who's played XI or even followed it knows a lot of Japanese players explained what they meant by 'JP Only', majority are wanting people in the same time frame or speak the same language. I've seen a great deal of "French/German Only" In my time in FFXI as well, were they discriminating against everyone else? More than likely not, people always take something the most negative way possible.

then put the "JP ONRY" in a server with only JP and put all The same people that speak THE SAME language on another server then we will nver have a "Language barrier"

Then we'll have complaints x time period is a lot less lively versus y time period. Also this sentence was kind of confusing, the language barrier only exists because despite playing a Japanese Game most people don't even attempt to learn at least basic Japanese to communicate, it goes a long way, just like people of other nations are usually forced to learn some English.

The good thing about XI and XIV is that they're international games that actually mix servers, all MMOs with segregated servers only see English servers with most population (surprise) and the rest are fairly low and generally less cared for by Admins. Also, I see a lot of people who don't just speak English playing on 'English Only' servers because it usually has higher population, so in the end it does absolutely nothing.

[DNO]

It's actually pretty known it's not discrimination or anything but people always state it as such so their point can be stronger, anyone who's played XI or even followed it knows a lot of Japanese players explained what they meant by 'JP Only', majority are wanting people in the same time frame or speak the same language. I've seen a great deal of "French/German Only" In my time in FFXI as well, were they discriminating against everyone else? More than likely not, people always take something the most negative way possible.



Then we'll have complaints x time period is a lot less lively versus y time period. Also this sentence was kind of confusing, the language barrier only exists because despite playing a Japanese Game most people don't even attempt to learn at least basic Japanese to communicate, it goes a long way, just like people of other nations are usually forced to learn some English.

The good thing about XI and XIV is that they're international games that actually mix servers, all MMOs with segregated servers only see English servers with most population (surprise) and the rest are fairly low and generally less cared for by Admins. Also, I see a lot of people who don't just speak English playing on 'English Only' servers because it usually has higher population, so in the end it does absolutely nothing.

I LIVE, WORK and play my video games in AMERICA. Here ALL products released are in ENGLISH. We are playing the ENGLISH version of a JP game.

With that being said why the hell should i learn basic JP? to party with people who want nuthin to do with me? If anything in AMERICA if we chose to learn a second language its OBVIOUSLY spanish. thats a stupid thought. Every other MMO has servers based on language. SE is BEHIND on this and that is why they are changing it.

Im FLOORED that you think its confusing for a product sold in America that people want to play with ENGLISH speaking people. Im... i ... i can't even comprehend that logic.

EDit:

People in other nations learn ENGLISH because more people speak it. Schools in America know this and are not required to do so. no one needs to learn JP im sorry.

[Jennestia]

I LIVE, WORK and play my video games in AMERICA. Here ALL products released are in ENGLISH. We are playing the ENGLISH version of a JP game.

I'm currently stationed in America for work with English localization and I see, just one business block alone, hirings that require you speak English and Spanish -- America is pretty diverse. Not to mention are you against playing with Europeans because they have German, French, Swedish and so on? It's also another diverse nation.

However this should make more sense to you:

World of Warcraft = American Product.

Final Fantasy XI/XIV = Japanese product with international servers.

People go into these two games knowing it's a game based and from Japan with servers with Japanese people and originally had no plans for segregated servers, if that's such a huge problem why did people even play it to begin with?

People in other nations learn ENGLISH because more people speak it. Schools in America know this and are not required to do so. no one needs to learn JP im sorry.

You're required in American school system to take Spanish, so you pretty much understand exactly what I mean by other nations having to take English courses.

[Orophin]

I haven't seen any JP ONRY shouts but there are advertisements from JP players in only JP characters so they're definitely catering it to people that can only understand that language, which is fine. Most of us understand that they would prefer to play with people that can understand the language so it's easier to communicate things.

Now FF11 was another story...Lots of search comments said {English}{No Thanks} or JP ONLY. Who knows if this is going to crop up again with the new search system if it allows for custom comments.

[Exni]

It's really not that big of a deal, as you see FR/EN/DU onry shouts as well. Some people would rather not deal with the language barrier. Though in my 6 years of XI, and time on XIV, it has almost never been an issue. I have never been kicked from an otherwise full JP pt, although I have left a few myself (in my experience alot of JP grind pt's move at a much slower pace, they usually seem to have a more casual approach to it). Occasionally I may get ignored by someone recruiting for a JP pt, but I take no offense to that since they made it clear in the shout already. Since I love to play in the early mornings to get somethings done before the rest of my LS logs on, JP pt's have been the way to go since back in XI for me. I am completely against regional servers as it kills server population at different times throughout the day. IF SE fully commits to providing some regional servers I know I'd opt to stay on an international server, as they are working just fine for me.

[Issac]

I only see it when they are recruiting for ifrit or other similar instances/bosses.
But EXP parties? Very rare.