What's your first impression of Eureka?

[MageBlack]

Loving Eureka so far, I kinda wish this was just the overworld in general...

Its fun running between mobs and trying to avoid agro, would love to see some triggered by sound too, not just sight.

I like the grind, I really hope they dont cow-tow to the complainers that "its too long, increase drops/exp" Reduce the grind and you have nothing left.

i like how its possible to solo but not effective, I like that there isnt a party finder or duty finder for it, just load up and go in then find like minded people inside.

Soon the detractors will give up and move on leaving the content to those who enjoy it for what it is. The great thing is as long as there are 124 people on a data center still doing it, there will be an instance with people. Instead of generating an instance based on the group queueing up its generated as the need arises.

Cant wait to see how they expand on this!

[Galaktica]

...I find it hilarious how many people are complaining, but then again, this requires the old fashioned grind mindset you'd have back at WoW launch, this is some actually time demanding content, unlike the constant weekly handholding 14 has done till now. It ain't for everyone, I agree, the fact it's purely for glamours and the like is problematic, sure, but I've only solo'd till now and find it a great way to just throw something on in the background and just grind without much to worry about. To each their own. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Soooooo are we finally acknowledging the toll Eureka is asking for is not your skills as a player, but rather your time as a human being?

Obviously, I can't speak for everyone, but I would appreciate more content that challenges me mentally and my skills as a video game player and less content that begs the questions "how long are willing to sit in front of the screen?" And before we go down this road, there's only so much Savage content to do at any given time. And I don't even want everything at Savage level or beyond. However, I feel like there's a happy middle ground between Savage and "just sorta sorta smack your keyboard with your elbows" that this game is refusing to capitalize on.

[SDaemon]

Soooooo are we finally acknowledging the toll Eureka is asking for is not your skills as a player, but rather your time as a human being?

I was never expecting Eureka to test my skills as a player, but rather give me something to do with my time in game.

[Divinemights]

Soooooo are we finally acknowledging the toll Eureka is asking for is not your skills as a player, but rather your time as a human being?

Beside of end-game raid and PvP, I cant really record any content that is demanding player skill, please do remind me.
ok.... maybe i forgot to mention chocobo-racing because I suck at it.

[Marluxia]

I'm genuinely curious how many people are playing Eureka just because of the implied "If you don't do it right now you'll fall behind" threat that it shares with weekly tomestone caps.

[Reynhart]

Soooooo are we finally acknowledging the toll Eureka is asking for is not your skills as a player, but rather your time as a human being?

We acknowledged that the relic works that way since 2.2, I don't know what people expected when it was clearly stated that Eureka would hold the relic of Stormblood.

[Alleo]

Yet people who dislike Eureka are just bringing arguments about grinding, that's not my fault.

And not everyone only complains about the grind itself (I did the HW relic from the start so I know that relics mean grinds..and I do own the Yokai glowing mount too..). Yes its probably faster to get crystals right now thanks to NM but it does not stop it from being completely boring..Kill 100 monsters of that specific kind to spawn the big brother/sister and zerg that down..rinse and repeat..that is ALL that is to Eureka..you kill monster to get crystsal. No doing daileys with the beast tribes, grind different dungeons or things like that..nope..just killing monsters and if you want to have it in an reasonable time (since you need to be 20 too for the last step..) well better get to the fate train and constantly just kill the same things again and again..

It is a big critism of the game that people have to do the same old thing again and again, so their solution to this is to give us a relic which can only be done in one way which includes killing the exact same NM for countless of times..

And please dont forget that this was the casual way to get a good weapon..yet you will probably not be able to get it in any reasonable time if you only have like 1-2 hours a day to play with the game because you simply cant do anything else and NM spawning still takes some time. So good luck for those..and the ones that are nearly done and only need the last step for their weapon have kinda just finished a content that was 17 months in development and should have been the new longterm content..(or at least we hoped that it would finally be that) What can you do with this content if you have the rewards? Will you truly just go in there for hours to kill the exact monsters again for nothing?

IMO its not wonder that they put the relic (and lots of FF11 nostalgic items) behind it, because without it, it would offer nothing. PotD was fun even without an reward, simply because it gave people a challenge..this content is best played and with the best reward if its zerged down..

Also I read about people on reddit and ingame saying things like: People need to split up so that we can spawn more than one NM and then do them one after the other because that is more efficient than sticking together. Yet when we did that once, our mass of people barely got back to the other fate that spawned while we were trying to spawn the others..the first group of people simply did not wait for us..

[Galaktica]

I was never expecting Eureka to test my skills as a player, but rather give me something to do with my time in game.

That's perfectly fine. All I ask is that we stop pretending like those of us asking for a better grind are somehow lazy. I feel like I've said this like a billion times already, why does the grind have to be boring? "But the old relic grinds were boring too!" Okay? So what? I should be okay with be rote game design because it's always been that way? If that's the case, no one is ever allowed to complain about dungeons ever again because they've always been that way.

Beside of end-game raid and PvP, I cant really record any content that is demanding player skill, please do remind me.

Hence why I would like more of that kind of content.

[SDaemon]

That's perfectly fine. All I ask is that we stop pretending like those of us asking for a better grind are somehow lazy. I feel like I've said this like a billion times already, why does the grind have to be boring? "But the old relic grinds were boring too!" Okay? So what? I should be okay with be rote game design because it's always been that way? If that's the case, no one is ever allowed to complain about dungeons ever again because they've always been that way.

I don't find the grind boring, and enjoy the current setup. I have no problems with them adding onto it to vary the game-play for those that dislike the current setup, but I'll ask in return that we stop pretending that because some people find it boring that the content is universally boring.

[Divinemights]

Hence why I would like more of that kind of content.

This is the problem.
End-game raid and PvP are only two contents that is demanding player skills, in every mmorpg.
At least you get a chocbo-racing here.
Maybe market board pvp count as another content that is demanding player skill?