Unsubscribed today Eureka killed it

[ManuelBravo]

I tried :x had poor luck reaching the NM cause nearly everything was one shotting me. Like I noted earlier, low play time, I'm about level 4 and logging today I feel like everyone will be level 7-10. I will be giving it a try again after work tho. I do appreciate the tips floating about!

If your killed might want to play it safe and go range magic DPS or RDM we are always looking for back up healers and quick raises. Know the nms attacks and keep your elemental wheel resistance selected in a worst case scenario, also buy the potions that are meant for Eureka, they are cheap and give a regen effect. If you can find elemental fairy get it's blessing to get xp boost and hp boost.

Note ALways have map open on the side if possible so you don't miss out, LV 9 you will have crystal warps and 17 I heard will be mounts.

[Malzian]

Atma farming Zodiac and Crystal farming Anima is literally hours longer than this. In 2hrs you can be upgraded 2x to a +1 weapon alone.

Ayup. I farmed out every Atma weapon pre-nerf... 10 weapons x 12 Atma x 3 crystals a piece... 360 crystals at about a 5% drop rate on FATEs. Took me about 6 months to do it while farming FATEs exclusively for about 4-5 hours a day, every day. (I had a lot more free time then, don't judge... >.>) 720 hours of grinding FATEs....

[Petori]

My sub is running out tomorrow I think. While Eureka isn't the sole reason I'm quitting/taking a break, it sure made not want to resub. Stormblood as a whole has been very lackluster experience for me so I had high hopes of Eureka after all the delay. Also I'm a long time FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 player so the grind isn't the issue. Not having fun while doing it is. Doesn't help how the game outside Eureka has been quite stale for me since 2.0.

[ReplicaX]

I want to add to, that many of us like figuring out content like Eureka that isn't go here and do this with a map marker or going in blind on new content. It is not even Rose Tinted glasses from past games, it is the joy of just figuring it out with a bunch of other like minded players.

If you truly want to maximize your time in Eureka, best wait, if not even for the future nerfs. Til players figure out the system and share it with the community.

[MuseTraveller]

If your killed might want to play it safe and go range magic DPS or RDM we are always looking for back up healers and quick raises. Know the nms attacks and keep your elemental wheel resistance selected in a worst case scenario, also buy the potions that are meant for Eureka, they are cheap and give a regen effect. If you can find elemental fairy get it's blessing to get xp boost and hp boost.

Ty! I will look about. I'm playing as WHM there. Admittedly, my second NM miss was for trying to res someone and died on the way, never making it to the NM in time. It could be that people didn't know how to spawn NMs at the time so everything felt extremely slow. I worry I will be too many levels behind to join any trains tho but time will tell. I still feel like the concept could been better executed and I'm still not too fond of the mob grind but I'm trying to give it a chance still, so ty for the tips and pointers!

[Adventica6]

If they are willing to delay this kind of content for so long to have it flop, imagine what will come next..

[TarynH]

Give us EX trials we cant beat in 4 pulls with no guide
Give us these " harder 4 man dungeons or Min i level sync challenges
Give us a real open world content not this endless mob mashers we have
Fix your normal mode raid difficulty its to easy and savage should be savage not semi- cupcake difficulity.

Remember what the players like, we love the thrill of dodging mechanics and learning, weaving in rotations in difficult situations, the crazy clutch healer or tank limit breaks the synergy and teamwork needed to bring down the realms worst foes.

We do not like Mob Mashers eureka.

Don't care about EX trials, or savage raids. They're just as boring and grindy as everything else.

Don't really care about dungeons. See above.

Open world content is okay I guess, as long as it doesn't interfere with certain elements of the game. Because I know it will eventually be abandoned, just like the A ranks in ARR zones that block new players from doing MSQ. (I've even killed a few that were in the way of new players.)

I'm perfectly fine with normal modes on things, even if the only reward is more story. There are some people who just want to casually play through the story, and don't want to grind for BiS gear before having a chance to move on.

I also don't mind grinding on mobs, as long as it's rewarding. Eureka fails in that department, with the rng of protean drops. It's quite different to kill 30 mobs and get 30 crystals, than killing 30 mobs and maybe getting 1 crystal. And zerging a seizure-inducing NM does not even equate to helping in that department. Eureka should have been more casual solo/duo friendly. They had a shot at actual casual grind, and blew it.

I think I'd be safe in saying what players truly want, are rewards that are worth the effort invested. If you make the weapons 350 (or w/e they are), then reduce the grind to something manageable by a solo player. Because I can craft a 350 weapon solo in minutes. If, however, you keep the grind the way it is, then make the weapon stronger than one you can craft in a few minutes, or acquire through a raid that takes significantly less time.

It's really simple logistics. Even in FFXI the relic weapon was kept BiS for over a decade, as it should be. Raid gear should not be higher than grinded-out relic gear. That's the one thing the devs and everyone else has ass backwards. Raids take a fraction of the time to do, and should not reward the top-notch weapon in the game at any stage, unless there is a gap of not having a relic weapon in the game (4.0-4.25). A lot of people say "Raid, Tome, Relic," because they think grinding is easy and casual (including the devs). In my opinion, it should be Relic, Raid, Tome, simply because of the time invested.

Dodging mechanics gets stale, and the only way they know of making them "exciting" is piling on more. Weaving in rotations bores me just thinking about it. I'll leave that for the D&D nerds. I don't agree with anything you said. So please don't speak to what "everyone" wants. Not everyone plays and sees the game as you do.

[Usho]

If you wanted this to be a discussion on the flaws you found in Eureka, you should have kept it to that and left the unsubbung part out. SE already knows your wallet vote, I guarantee that...

I like how the White Knights keep trying to defend the mess that is Eureka. Darty has a right to be heard. This is a PUBLIC forum after all. You have no right to basically tell him to "shut up and keep it to yourself". And I understand why he is leaving. I'd leave too after the disappointment of this latest patch if it wasn't for my house. They took over a year to work on this. I wanted Eureka to be exciting and fresh...you know something to get me engaged. What we got...was s**tty zerg grindfest diadem 3.0 with some not so ffxi-ish elements thrown in. FFXI had grind, but this...is trash. Content shouldn't put you to sleep. Just saiyan.

[Niqote]

Guys... OP hasn't even beaten the savage raid that they talk about in first post. Kind of a carbon copy troll post in this case, isn't it?

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...nt/category/4/

I mean, you should at least play the content you talk about.... surely?


Edit for reply below: Perhaps it's an Alt then? Not even Shinryu cleared on this one. ^^;;;;

[Lord_Zlatan]

Guys... OP hasn't even beaten the savage raid that they talk about in first post. Kind of a carbon copy troll post in this case, isn't it?

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...nt/category/4/

I mean, you should at least play the content you talk about.... surely?

the dudes completed UCOB...