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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    A weapon still obtainable to this day, mind. There is no timed lockout on it.
    That wasn't the point but I have repeatedly suggested that future top 100 finishers have a choice between the current seasons reward or a past seasons reward. That way the time restraint is removed and it keeps the rewards as hard to obtain as they were in the past.

    However Bourne Endeavor continues to ignore this suggestion and continues to suggest solutions that are easier and easier to perform. Her latest suggestion were using wolf collars which are literally just a time investment... would literally take no effort to collect top 100 rewards.... it's sad.

    edit: mismatch marks and collars, still the same idea
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    Last edited by Aviars; 03-12-2018 at 12:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    That wasn't the point
    That was my point though. Besides which, there is no seasonal lockout whatsoever with Ultimate--in fact, you can farm it to get every reward if you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    That was my point though. Besides which, there is no seasonal lockout whatsoever with Ultimate--in fact, you can farm it to get every reward if you like.
    Ya I saw your point, are you going to ignore my suggestion and keep complaining about the time restraint or actually respond to it? Unlike Bourne up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Ya I saw your point, are you going to ignore my suggestion and keep complaining about the time restraint or actually respond to it? Unlike Bourne up there.
    "Bourne senpai please notice me."

    Why don't you look me in the eyes when you respond to me? :P

    As far as your suggestion, lemme one up you. Each season lasts 1 month, with a 1 week preseason. That way people can prepare, grind out, and compete every month without having to wait an exorbitant amount of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    "Bourne senpai please notice me."

    Why don't you look me in the eyes when you respond to me? :P

    As far as your suggestion, lemme one up you. Each season lasts 1 month, with a 1 week preseason. That way people can prepare, grind out, and compete every month without having to wait an exorbitant amount of time.
    The more bourne doesn't respond, the more it makes me right. My last post to her on the previous page pointed out numerous contradictions in her argument, it's quite clear she doesn't want to answer to them or my reasonable suggestion. It's ok ;]

    1 month isn't enough to allow ratings to settle, it regularly takes several weeks for ratings to settle and then allow people to have games that match their respective skill level. You should be reminded that everyone starts at zero rating. Also the last season was was roughly over 2 months which is fine. You also have to consider that SE needs time to actually create rewards. Are you suggesting they do something new every month?

    PVP seasons in other games don't just last for a month, try and think of something reasonable rather than be cheeky and make seasons unreasonably short and then making everything way more common as a result.
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    I think the super exclusivity of feast stuff is kind of the core problem.

    other pvp stuff is just keep at it and you'll eventually get the reward, don't really see that many ADS or field commander sets so it seems to be an effective limiting factor
    pve stuff is always in a form of current season is hard to get and previous season stuff is much easier

    and the feast is once ever for a super limited amount of people participating no matter how many are high skilled and then gone forever

    Just seems like it doesn't really fit into the way ffxiv is, feast even has a token system associated with it
    I can see an achievement system required for rank bracelets and trophies but all the glamour seems silly to me

    hard to get is one thing but i've never even seen a feast mount or armor set in game yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    The more bourne doesn't respond, the more it makes me right.
    What is this? 2nd grade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    The more bourne doesn't respond, the more it makes me right. My last post to her on the previous page pointed out numerous contradictions in her argument, it's quite clear she doesn't want to answer to them or my reasonable suggestion. It's ok ;]
    "Bourne senpai won't respond to me, waaah, waaaah."

    1 month isn't enough to allow ratings to settle, it regularly takes several weeks for ratings to settle and then allow people to have games that match their respective skill level. You should be reminded that everyone starts at zero rating. Also the last season was was roughly over 2 months which is fine.
    Alright, two month seasons.
    You also have to consider that SE needs time to actually create rewards. Are you suggesting they do something new every month?
    Combined with your suggestion, they wouldn't need to. Players could compete for previous season's prizes, and only have a new set every few seasons.
    PVP seasons in other games don't just last for a month
    This isn't other games. Other games control their bot population, manage balance correctly, and listen to their PvP audience.

    try and think of something reasonable rather than be cheeky and make seasons unreasonably short and then making everything way more common as a result.
    Things would be way more common with your suggestion as well. Are you being unreasonable?
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    They could just give the top 100 a voucher that let's them pick from a basket of either the current or previous seasons rewards. That way it encourages people to work hard for it, keeps the rewards pristine but also doesn't completely lock out the old rewards to never be seen again. They'll still be time gated cause of obvious season progression but they won't be lost in the void of time to never see the light of day again. If we want to be even lazier they could make them cost 20 or 30 Wolf Collars. At such a high price it would still take over a year for the average competitor to get just One item. Not everybody would commit to it either, so stuff would still be mostly rare in a sense.

    Anyways, those are my Two suggestions. I'd honestly be fine with either or really.
    It's floating around somewhere but Yoshida did say at some point in time they were going to 'cycle in' old Feast rewards. Whether that just means doing a recolor every other season or actually bringing back the old rewards is beyond me or anybody else's knowledge, so who knows? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    "Bourne senpai won't respond to me, waaah, waaaah."
    There's no real reason to debate this with you, you seem rather intent on attacking me, so I'll just leave it at that
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Alright, two month seasons.
    2-3 months yes, whatever makes sense to Square Enix and their own patch cycles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Combined with your suggestion, they wouldn't need to. Players could compete for previous season's prizes, and only have a new set every few seasons.
    Square Enix releases a new reward either with slight modifications or completely new every season. That is how they do things, and with a 2-3 month season which was what they did last time, they wouldn't have to change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    This isn't other games. Other games control their bot population, manage balance correctly, and listen to their PvP audience.
    So are you suggesting they don't fix PVP and go with what you think is best? Usually games try and center the way it should be rather than around bots.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Things would be way more common with your suggestion as well. Are you being unreasonable?
    As past season rewards become more common through people opting out of current season rewards then the current season reward becomes that much more scarce. You aren't Increasing the the net total of these items more than before as it still only increases by 100 every season per datacenter, like it always has been.
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