Dev blog: New Feast rewards

[AriaFairchild]

Wow, this thread is still going strong. Where were you guys when we need people to stir up commotion for bots/cheaters/hackers?
Bots and no one bats an eye, a **** mount and everyone loses their mind.

I know a lot of people have a very low outlook in this game ("Why bother trying cuz wintraders?" etc.), but come on, at least give the thing a shot. Aim high and you will gain something, aim low and you will probably be screwed.

Personally I don't care if the rewards are available to everyone (who actually put effort in to get them), PvP is for smashing your neighbors in the face, shinies are a bonus but not necessarily.

[Mutemutt]

To people who call the seasons “limited time events “, I’d find a new term. We have limited time events called “Seasonal Events” in the game already. We know where their rewards end up. Don’t give SE any ideas.

The Moogle outfit shows that they have no problem removing exclusivity even when it was expressly stated.

Well, I said "limited time competitions"; important distinction. But Now that I think about it, not that I would really call them pve content, has any of the various art contests and the like ever had their rewards end up at the cash shop? I honestly don't remember any of them being there, but at the same time I don't really keep up with those contests.

[Istaru]

Well, I said "limited time competitions"; important distinction. But Now that I think about it, not that I would really call them pve content, has any of the various art contests and the like ever had their rewards end up at the cash shop? I honestly don't remember any of them being there, but at the same time I don't really keep up with those contests.

My caution was in general, not directed as you. It’s why I chose “people” and not “you” or your name. I have seen others use that term and I don’t want the curator to get any crazy ideas.

They have not.

However, they aren’t ingame events per se. They are fully handled outside of the game. In addition, they are the same for all of those events. If you fail to win it for this event, there will be more events that offer it. Which is probably part of why they aren’t being requested like the Feast mounts are.

[Rufalus]

The "git gud" and "put the effort in" comments can't be applied to a limited reward. A person could get good and put in a large amount of hours and still not earn the reward if 100+ other people decided to do the same thing. There can only be 100 (or less because alts) winners across all worlds on a datacenter, so on average 12 people per world if we say that a datacenter has 8 worlds. Also unfortunate that it can only be achieved in a certain time period.

From what I've seen, the seasonal rewards have not lead to a healthy pvp community on eu/na worlds so locking mounts to it is questionable. We're only seeing bursts of activity early season and then people stop playing. I think the amount of people who stick with pvp long term wouldn't be much different if seasonal rewards were only trophies/ titles, while letting mounts be available to more than 100 people and not restricted to certain seasons.

[HyoMinPark]

Well, I said "limited time competitions"; important distinction. But Now that I think about it, not that I would really call them pve content, has any of the various art contests and the like ever had their rewards end up at the cash shop? I honestly don't remember any of them being there, but at the same time I don't really keep up with those contests.

Like Istaru said, those rewards are used for every single outside contest, so even if one doesn’t win them for one contest, they can always try again in the next one. The Feast mounts are “if you don’t get Top 100 during the relevant Feast Season, well too bad for you”. The main argument for the mounts is that they are exclusive, where as no other piece of content has such exclusivity, and if the developers want exclusivity, they need to be consistent with it.

A lot of contention also comes from the fact that the general playerbase were the ones who requested the Hellhound as a mount, and the developers decided to put it in PvP as a limited time/limited number reward.

[AriaFairchild]

The "git gud" and "put the effort in" comments can't be applied to a limited reward. A person could get good and put in a large amount of hours and still not earn the reward if 100+ other people decided to do the same thing.

Put effort in and you might get 0.1% to get the mount. You give yourself a positive chance to get it (low, but it exists).
Put zero effort in and you get 0%. You are guaranteed to get none.

I'll take the 0.1% anyday.

[Mutemutt]

Like Istaru said, those rewards are used for every single outside contest, so even if one doesn’t win them for one contest, they can always try again in the next one. The Feast mounts are “if you don’t get Top 100 during the relevant Feast Season, well too bad for you”. The main argument for the mounts is that they are exclusive, where as no other piece of content has such exclusivity, and if the developers want exclusivity, they need to be consistent with it.

Well they are being pretty consistent about it actually. No other content in the game functions like feast seasons and the feast seasons have functioned this way every time more or less and this kind of thread has also popped up in response every time. On the other hand there are plenty of pvp rewards not tied to being in the top 100 and they are not exclusive to particular feast seasons.

Honestly, the reason the art contest rewards see very little discontent is because it's just accessories, which just generate very little interest. Mounts are on the complete opposite of the scale.

[Titor]

I think this should be in gold saucer or cash shop with the other npc stuff.
I’m saying this as someone really hyped for the mount, and I’ve placed in top 100 every season so far, but putting npc related items in feast is really weird, especially considering that this npc has nothing to do with feast. Like at all.

[Rufalus]

Put effort in and you might get 0.1% to get the mount. You give yourself a positive chance to get it.

Yeah it's possible to achieve if a person participates. People's complaints aren't about wanting something with no effort though. The criticisms are about the number of mounts available and the time window you can earn them. You might want to play Eureka or have RL commitments at the time the season begins, miss the ideal window to rank up, try to catch up late season but queues won't pop, season ends and mount is never available again in the lifetime of the game. Not that people who make sacrifices shouldn't be rewarded with something nice. I was just pointing out that it doesn't make sense when people argue you'll definitely get the mount if you put in the time, since that cannot be true for everybody if more than 100 people are working hard on it.

[RiyahArp]

If they wanted to put this mount in Feast, it should be obtainable after 300-500 training matches. That would be far more obtainable, and keep the mode populated more than two weeks. Let the top 100 have a unique mount, but make this mount obtainable through training and learning the mode.