DRK Living Dead is healer's nightmare.

[KDSilver]

Living dead a pain ?
Actually, no, on some situation, it's better than holmgang.

Why ?
Cause you have 10s to activate it, and 10s to heal it.
What that this mean ?
During de 10s your DK activates it, you can totally ignore him and let auto from the boss hit him until walking dead is active. The another 10s (more or less) and heal him 5s before the end.

It's easily dealt by healer with : Excog, Essential Dignity, Benefic II, Benediction.

The only moment I had problem healing my tanks when he was in a living dead moment was when I was out of ressources because everyone died/my co-healer healer as well, mana issue ect...

So, no, it's not a nightmare at all.

[Risvertasashi]

During de 10s your DK activates it, you can totally ignore him and let auto from the boss hit him until walking dead is active. The another 10s (more or less) and heal him 5s before the end.

Unless it wears off 1s before the lethal blow... xD

Holmgang is a narrower window but you don't have to full heal through it. If you do have benediction/etc up, it's an easy way to deal with holmgang. If you don't, it's not a big deal.

[KDSilver]

That's DK job to know when it's safe to activate it then.
But I never had that problem honestly.

[Risvertasashi]

That's DK job to know when it's safe to activate it then.
But I never had that problem honestly.

There are times where it's fine but let me put it this way.

If you're in a situation where healing is strained, Holmgang is easier to deal with. The healing requirements are simply less.

HG is the easiest of them all, but it's also on a massive CD.

[KDSilver]

Yes, Holmgang is easier to deal with. I never said otherwise.

My point was that LD sometimes had his own benefit and wasn't the nightmare people think it is.

[ManuelBravo]

As a healer never had an issue, as a DRK never had an issue, if anything I blame less experienced healers that freak out or think they know how to heal. or incompetent DRK that don't know their job properly. You know who you are /em stare

[Launched]

So holmgang is basically a Living Dead without the debuff?
Hallowed ground not only does not have the debuff, but also negates all damage completely.

Sure, Holmgang is just Living Dead without the debuff if you ignore all the other things that make it unique. Holmgang lasts 4s less than Living Dead which is a pretty big difference. There are mechanics that PLD/DRK can completely ignore with their skills that WAR can't Two examples are Holy Scourge -> Chastening Heat in A12S, and the 2 times in O8S where God Kefka will do Ultimate Embrace -> Hyperdrive. Then there's the target requirement, where DRK/PLD can take things like O6S tornados by themselves. WAR might be able to take the first one, but the second is on the opposite side of the arena from the boss. The root is sometimes good and sometimes bad, and it means you usually have to choose between using it to survive a tankbuster or ignore a mechanic. The root also makes it the worst for dungeons.

[Derio]

Its not a nightmare, but it does need a serious rework. Actually DRK's whole defensive kit outside of TBN needs a rework

[Joe777]

If the DRK used Living Dead and Walking Dead has taken effect and its taking tons of damage still then wait a bit for those damage ticks to settle down before healing OP. Healing during things like Ahk Morn for example is futile. Let Walking Dead soak it up, then heal the DRK.

[Sylvain]

For now, but if you removed Walking Dead, then they'd only have the 10 seconds of Living Dead itself.

The question is simply whether it's worth trading a small technical advantage (preparatory leniency) that could give up to 19 seconds of hands-free heals if you have a Bene at the ready, for a quality of life change that reduces WHM dependence.

Personally, I could go either way, as I haven't particularly had issues with it except with laggy tanks dying just after having been healed from 1 to full and then a bit more after another GCD's damage taken and healing recieved.

No but he's right, to some extend DRK cd is much easier to use. You have 10sec before it procs and then you can't die for 10sec.
This would justify the healing debuff OR the cd. The problem is that we have more downside than upside.

Something else should be added such as "if you don't actually proc living dead CD reduced to 60sec" or something