The PF is absolutely pathetic (O7s)

[RiyahArp]

Why are you reacting that way? lol No one is asking to make it harder. ?

The OP is complaining about 07s PFwhich at this time, is one of the three hardest current fights in the game. Do you not think it's natural for unorganized randoms to struggle with one of the three hardest fights?

Apparently not, because people here are saying 07s is actually easy! I'm being absurd here, and saying oh well, if it's easy we ought to make it harder then, because you can't be satisfied with such an easy fight to you. I'm trying to point out that it's not an easy fight and its natural for most people in the PF to fail it, and odd that people are complaining about it. Did I make myself clearer?

edit: I'm not actually asking to make it harder, i'm sarcastically pointing out how dumb it is to call it easy, because its a hard fight.

[Nhadaly]

The OP is complaining about 07s PFwhich at this time, is one of the three hardest current fights in the game. Do you not think it's natural for unorganized randoms to struggle with one of the three hardest fights?

Apparently not, because people here are saying 07s is actually easy! I'm being absurd here, and saying oh well, if it's easy we ought to make it harder then, because you can't be satisfied with such an easy fight to you. I'm trying to point out that it's not an easy fight and its natural for most people in the PF to fail it, and odd that people are complaining about it. Did I make myself clearer?

Nobody said to make the content harder, i actually enjoy the fights of this tier regardless of difficulty, i enjoy tackling the mechanics and trying to keep uptime at the same time, its a fun challenge.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Why are you reacting that way? lol No one is asking to make it harder.

Are you currently raiding?

Because she always acts this way. Even the slightest complaint and you'll be seeing silly absolutes and extreme ala "make it ultimate difficulty!" The record has broke into so many pieces you'd mistake them for dust.

The OP is complaining about 07s PFwhich at this time, is one of the three hardest current fights in the game. Do you not think it's natural for unorganized randoms to struggle with one of the three hardest fights?

Apparently not, because people here are saying 07s is actually easy! I'm being absurd here, and saying oh well, if it's easy we ought to make it harder then, because you can't be satisfied with such an easy fight to you. I'm trying to point out that it's not an easy fight and its natural for most people in the PF to fail it, and odd that people are complaining about it. Did I make myself clearer?

edit: I'm not actually asking to make it harder, i'm sarcastically pointing out how dumb it is to call it easy, because its a hard fight.

If you actually read the OP's post instead of jumping to silly conclusions as always, you may have picked up they aren't complaining about the difficulty.. She is likely joining enrage/clear parties, which means people should have full knowledge on the entire fight and not wipe to mechanics they should be acutely aware of. Mistakes are bound to happen; we all make them regardless of our skill level. That being said, I can't fault people growing frustrated at others messing up Books or Ink five, six, seven times.

[Sciwolf]

Random groups are bad?

[Lunafreya]

I cleared in a pug since my static doesnt mind and is hanging around post virus. It's an absolute matter of time and people all knowing the fight outright. I'd do 3 pulls and if you dont get past virus just find a new party. In my experience, the wipes all happen to people not pre positioning for Ultros loading ink, people seem to forget how ccw works on Biblio and most people die to last phase Ultros and chakras. I'm not saying it is an easy fight because it isn't. It has big damage and everything but you need to know EVERYTHING or you wipe. You wont be able to have more than 3 deaths if your dpsers have the damage. Make sure your healers are dpsing because that is very important. Virus itself is not hard but people need to not mess it up or it is a wipe.

[Crescents]

...what do you expect? every tier it's been absolutely ridiculous trying to clear the third and fourth encounters even after the duty complete filter O3S had a ridiculous amount of wipes and worst yet people will drop from the party if first pull wipes at 1% in the oh-so-popular "I thought this was a clear party" line. It's not sigmascape specific and it wont be the last time, the truth is, if a encounter needs more coordination than the literal striking dummy O6S is, they want to be carried through it.

Either join a static or deal with it, because its not changing anytime soon.

[ServerCollaps]

make your own group and kick people that underperform (low dps, get hit by every missile, etc). I pugged o7s a few times already and it worked out (EU-Datacenter)

[Singularity]

I'd hate to see what anyone in this game would do if SE decided we needed actual hard content then.

We had that before. People that had Echoed and overgeared their way through Coil waved their erm... egos around by fake-complaining that "raid content is too easy" and that SE should "give us a real challenge".

Well either through naivety or vindictiveness SE listened, and the result was Gordias. Statics breaking on the mini-boss before the first boss (and most of those that survived broke on Living Liquid instead). Raid community disintegrating. Mass migrations to the promised land of Gilgamesh, where all the players are 95th percentile and the clears flow like water.

In large part, the reason savage is the way it is now (since Creator) is because of what happened when SE made "a real challenge".

[Javey]

Ah...so the pug raiding scene is still like...that.

I gave up on deltascape savage because of salt and one wipe rage quits. Idk why I was hoping it would be different this time. I guess because the fights seem more straightforward?

I wish I could read and type Japanese to see what they are doing differently that makes them have significantly more clears than NA and EU.

[Aomine1992]

This is quite common in the PUG raid scene you just take what you can get lol but I am sad for you because V7 is definitely a wall for people but even the bad ones make it past that Kefka is constantly showing me that