Forbidden Materia, meant for the hardcore or just the lucky?

[grandm]

This is the only big issue I've had with the direction of the game since Yoshi was made director....but, it is a HUGE issue that has a serious potential to destroy the game should 2.0 put it back on its feet.

If the current system stays in place then this game's endgame will be a joke.

There is no skill involved in getting the best gear in this game.

There is no reason to do any endgame raids.

There is no boss fight for the best gear in the game.

The only way you will get the best gear in the game at the moment is farm gil or buy it from RMT.

Why the community isn't more up in arms about this is puzzling to me. I guess most people aren't looking at the materia system in a broad picture.

I wish they could just do away entirely with the forbidden materia system... but that can't happen now after months of the system already going live.

If they are really set on a system of attaching multiple materia with low success rates; they should consider implementing items from raids or bosses that increase the chance of success for forbidden materia...so endgame content they release won't be useless.

in short the reason not so many ppl are, "up in arms" as you put it. is because as new content is released, it is released with new and better gear, new content bring better gear that makes old gear obsolete, there is no reason to believe what is to come in the future won't be better than materia. materia came after the dungeons that are out so it is better. but 1.21 will have newer stuff that will be better again. if not then complain

[Montijin]

there is no reason to believe what is to come in the future won't be better than materia. materia came after the dungeons that are out so it is better. but 1.21 will have newer stuff that will be better again. if not then complain

What reasoning is there that the gear from later dungeons WILL be better? The difference in stats between materia gear and non materia gear is so astronomical how do you expect it to not be the top gear?

[grandm]

What reasoning is there that the gear from later dungeons WILL be better? The difference in stats between materia gear and non materia gear is so astronomical how do you expect it to not be the top gear?

new dungeons drops will be as good if not better than materia 3 pieces, ifrit gear is so why not new gear? as for 4 and 5 piece materia gear, how many of these items have you seen? i bet you see loads more ppl with full set dungeon gera than you do with 1 piece of materia 5, dungeon gear is actually obtainable, which makes it worth the effort

[Molly_Millions]

No comments on the success rate, as I think it's awesome that we've now got a chance (however small) of making some super rare, super awesome gear. I just had a comment on your approach, OP. Instead of going for gold right off the bat with a single set of gloves with 5 materia, why don't you slowly increase the number of melds across all your armor/weapons? For example, start with 2 materia on everything, since that isn't too tough, then go for the same pieces but with 3 melds, then increasing to 4, etc. That approach seems much more reasonable because you'll slowly be increasing your stats (due to the higher meld success rates until you get close to the goal) rather than just loosing more gloves initially.

[Abauge_Goga]

in short the reason not so many ppl are, "up in arms" as you put it. is because as new content is released, it is released with new and better gear, new content bring better gear that makes old gear obsolete, there is no reason to believe what is to come in the future won't be better than materia. materia came after the dungeons that are out so it is better. but 1.21 will have newer stuff that will be better again. if not then complain

They will not release gear that is better than gear with materia. If they do, noone will meld anymore. They will add more rare/ex gear for sure, but they will also come up with new normal gear that, when melded with 2 or so tiers of materia will become better.

The system is broken right now, there is no skill involved, only luck and gil. Like someone already said, the only way to have the best gear in the game right now is if you have lots of gil, which is RMT heaven.

I hope they either change this to something Meowie or someone else suggested, quest or HNM which drop certain key items that give you a materia slot, or something else that removes this gil sink out of the equation and replaces it with a time sink.

[Frein]

I hope they either change this to something Meowie or someone else suggested, quest or HNM which drop certain key items that give you a materia slot, or something else that removes this gil sink out of the equation and replaces it with a time sink.

It's not even a gil sink because the gil goes to other players rather than disappearing from circulation. Still, it's incredibly pro-RMT.

[syntaxlies]

It's not even a gil sink because the gil goes to other players rather than disappearing from circulation. Still, it's incredibly pro-RMT.

it is a gil sink because of the taxing. the market wards tax system is one big gil sink.

[MeowyWowie]

it is a gil sink because of the taxing. the market wards tax system is one big gil sink.

Well, that's just the market wards that are the gil sink, not necessarily the materia system. There's no tax for shouting and purchasing through /trade for instance.

[tymora]

It's not even a gil sink because the gil goes to other players rather than disappearing from circulation. Still, it's incredibly pro-RMT.

Suggest something that can make you gil in game and drive the economy without being incredibly pro-RMT. I doubt you can. I doubt anyone else can either.

[Frein]

Suggest something that can make you gil in game and drive the economy without being incredibly pro-RMT. I doubt you can. I doubt anyone else can either.

Correct. Because of RMT and the fact that participating in economic activities like trade and manufacturing is mostly rather boring, I would not design an MMO to be centered on the economy. Over here we call it work and most of us do it only because we get paid for it.