Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[ChloeGrace]

I was kicked by 3 random lalas in a dungeon so they could get a 4th.
I'm not even mad.

[Taika]

Apparently the WAR thought that when I said the OT would solo the first stack, that meant a literal solo stack – as in nobody in the stack marker. Which, now that I think about it, made absolutely no sense as I specifically said the OT and he wanted me to MT it.

I don't know how PF groups generally do these things since I've been lucky enough to always have a full FC party for this until now, but for us when a tank says "I will solo the next", they mean they will stand there completely alone, and both our tanks have done that as often as possible throughout the fight. So if I'd hear "I will solo" in that fight, for me it would mean that no one has to run to the stack at all. From your explanation, I'm still a bit unsure what you meant by that.

[winsock]

I've now had two runs of the early guildhest in Tam-Tara where, instead of simply running up to Bockman in the middle of the room and fighting it there, the tank has lured it outside into the narrow corridor where you start.

I don't understand this at all. What would they be trying to achieve by doing that?

It's a minor optimization. The brunt of the value is that you avoid a loading screen.
In guildhests, after you've completed the objectives, the game goes to a load screen and moves you to the turn-npc, but it wont do that if you're already standing next them. If you fight in the middle of the room, you wont have enough time to get to the turn-in npc before the load screen.

[Stellafreyja]

I had a super rough Rabanastre run on White Mage. We wiped twice on Hashmal and almost a 3rd time. And we wiped on Rofcale. But the funniest thing that happened was the co-healer, who was actually new to the raid and I had no idea, marked herself and me and told the other party members to look for the marks to be in range of heals. lol It was smart. Though you still get Casters/Ranged standing at the absolute max range away from everyone to fight and not getting AoE heals...

We did end up clearing. Though people love to be assholes and start an abandon vote. We got to the final boss and someone wanted to abandon. I'm like...we're at the final boss???? Do you really wanna do it all over again???

[Galgarion]

Even when you admitted in party that you weren't trying, the group refused to kick you whatever reason.

That group can go kick rocks. I would have dropped them faster than a sandwich with a booger on it.

[VanilleFang]

I don't know how PF groups generally do these things since I've been lucky enough to always have a full FC party for this until now, but for us when a tank says "I will solo the next", they mean they will stand there completely alone, and both our tanks have done that as often as possible throughout the fight. So if I'd hear "I will solo" in that fight, for me it would mean that no one has to run to the stack at all. From your explanation, I'm still a bit unsure what you meant by that.

Kaiva meant solo stack. Logic would dictate if the MT is the one getting grabbed, and the OT is supposed to "solo the stack" that the OT would be the only one in the stack... If I say "WAR will solo the first stack" but they are not MY, what else could I possibly mean? They aren't the one who is going to get grabbed, so...

[Taika]

Kaiva meant solo stack. Logic would dictate if the MT is the one getting grabbed, and the OT is supposed to "solo the stack" that the OT would be the only one in the stack... If I say "WAR will solo the first stack" but they are not MY, what else could I possibly mean? They aren't the one who is going to get grabbed, so...

Just to be clear about this, since I'm not 100% sure about those mechanics never having tanked it and not having paid that much attention to it other than if I need to run into my stack or not, they meant that even though the MT will get grabbed and thrown into the stack, they're expecting the WAR to run into it with the MT? If so, what's the point (and why did they say "solo" then, if both tanks are sharing it)? And if not, what did they mean?

Edit: Just to clarify, I don't intend to claim that Kaiva acted wrong in the situation: obviously they had a tactic in mind and tried to communicate to the group. It may be the rest of the party just had never done it that way and had no idea what they meant - like me - and using the word "solo" when it seems the damage was expected to be shared just didn't make sense to them and they misunderstood what was meant. Had I been the OT and someone had asked me to solo the first stack mark, I would probably had thought they want me to Provoke just before the move. Of course, in that situation the party members should have asked further questions until everyone was on the same page. But no reason to feel stupid about it, and it wasn't your fault, Kaiva. At least you tried to communicate, things just got lost in translation there.

The reason I was asking these questions is that I've never thought it would/could/should be done this way and just wanted to know if it's something worth considering. As said, on our own runs we've simply had the tanks stay 1st and 2nd on enmity list and then solo as many stacks as possible (as in only the person who gets taken by boss will eat the damage, no one else moves to stacking place). And for those for which tanks need assistance, we have assigned 1 healer and 2 DDs for both stacks (1st and 2nd), running in when the tank shouts they need some extra bodies. If I were to PF it, I probably would just want 4 people for both stacks every time though, just to be safe...

[EorzeaHero69]

I was kicked by 3 random lalas in a dungeon so they could get a 4th.
I'm not even mad.

Those evil popotos!

[Frizze]

Just to be clear about this, since I'm not 100% sure about those mechanics

What Kaiva was asking to do is similar to what your group already does with the tanks eating the damage alone(likely using immunities). Kaiva's called strategy was for the OT to go alone to eat the first slam - soloing the stack up marker. Since the person grabbed shares the damage with those stacked, this would be the 2 tanks sharing the first slam. Kaiva's strategy here was for the tanks to share the first, then the DPS could stack in on the second stack up marker to share that damage(the strategy sets up so that the offtank eats half a slam the first time and 1/5 of one the second which they should have enough HP for, the MT just has to maintain a good hate lead, the DPS only have to move to one marker, and the healers can stay out of it and just focus on HP/DPS). The issue Kaiva came across was that other tank. Either through lack of understanding or just an unwillingness to try something different, they essentially sabotaged the group. They wouldnt MT, and they were running away from the stack markers as OT. It sounds like they got hung up on the word "solo" and stopped functioning as a player. "Off-tank only in first stack marker" shouldnt be that hard to understand. And if they were against the idea, they should have just said so("id rather we do it the other way with DPS and healers splitting stacks") instead of messing things up for everyone. The group was talking strategy, so theres no reason to keep to yourself.

I was kicked by 3 random lalas in a dungeon so they could get a 4th.
I'm not even mad.

Thats a reason to celebrate, not a reason to be mad. Id never want to go into a dungeon with a pack of lalas. Potatos are not to be trusted with your life, they are to be deep fried baked or mashed up into a side dish with your dinner.

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Those evil popotos!

You just made the list.