SE to churn out a FF title/year?!

[Atoli]

Faster does not necessarily means worse.
Assassin's Creed was always interesting in my opinion and certainly had no "lack of content", still, they released those games way faster than SE did with FF.
And it's not just FFXIII, it's even waaaay worse with Versus XIII x-x
But I think that's okay, I'd rather have them take longer and make a beautiful game instead of doing it fast and going down to a graphics quality games have which use the Unreal Engine.

Also, where exactly has FFXIII damaged the brand?
I agree with FFXIV, but as far as I know, XIII was a success and many people are eagerly awaiting the second part.

[Platinumstorm]

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Also, where exactly has FFXIII damaged the brand?
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Story lacking continuity, boring combat system, extreme linearity, and a lack of towns/pacing contributed to a feeling of FFXIII damaging the brand.

For me the story lacking continuity and the linearity probably did the most damage.

I loved the character design in XIII, though, imo it was the best playable cast since FFVIII. It was annoying to see the chick with glasses just fall over and die, though - such a cool character.

[Seif]

Story lacking continuity, boring combat system, extreme linearity, and a lack of towns/pacing contributed to a feeling of FFXIII damaging the brand.

For me the story lacking continuity and the linearity probably did the most damage.

I loved the character design in XIII, though, imo it was the best playable cast since FFVIII. It was annoying to see the chick with glasses just fall over and die, though - such a cool character.

Yup, it's like watching a really bad tv-show with limited remote controller. Nomura did amazing character designs as usual but to the game designer they were just dolls to his medium envy hollywood-wannabe playhouse. I have hard time taking people who like XIII seriously because clearly they were just pretending to be playing the game instead of really looking at what they we're allowed to do in the game.

[Lucifer]

Yup, it's like watching a really bad tv-show with limited remote controller. Nomura did amazing character designs as usual but to the game designer they were just dolls to his medium envy hollywood-wannabe playhouse. I have hard time taking people who like XIII seriously because clearly they were just pretending to be playing the game instead of really looking at what they we're allowed to do in the game.

Not sure how you can stand the people in this community. All they do is vehemently defend anything SE touches. I guarantee you if SE captured their farts in a bottle, these same people would buy two bottles. They would put one up on display as a collectors item, and the other they would release right down their throat.

[Scherwiz]

Not sure how you can stand the people in this community. All they do is vehemently defend anything SE touches. I guarantee you if SE captured their farts in a bottle, these same people would buy two bottles. They would put one up on display as a collectors item, and the other they would release right down their throat.

Right, so... did you buy FFXIV?

[Lucifer]

Right, so... did you buy FFXIV?

I did. Collectors edition too.
How is this relevant?

[Scherwiz]

I did. Collectors edition too.
How is this relevant?

You bought something possibly worse than a fart in a bottle, atleast then, and ... I bought... 2 CE... shit.

[Teakwood]

Yup, it's like watching a really bad tv-show with limited remote controller. Nomura did amazing character designs as usual but to the game designer they were just dolls to his medium envy hollywood-wannabe playhouse. I have hard time taking people who like XIII seriously because clearly they were just pretending to be playing the game instead of really looking at what they we're allowed to do in the game.

I have a hard time taking people who bash other people for liking FFXIII seriously becuase clearly they havent figured out that the world does not revolve around only what they like.

Alternately, like, take what you said and replace "XIII" with any other game ever. I have a hard time taking people who like The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past because clearly they were just pretending to play the game instead of really looking at what they're allowed to do in the game! Clearly!

Slightly more on topic, is there anyone else who'd like to see some lower-development-time, non-HD games (maybe for handhelds? Although even handhelds are HD resource-heavy games these days) come from SE? There's a /fairly/ high chance that this is nostalgia filter at play, and I've actually been really happy with what they've been doing, visually and otherwise, with the HD blockbuster approach. I'm just sort of curious what sort of game would come out of a more minimalistic approach to game resources (and I just got done playing Radiant Historia, which in addition to being fantastic, hit a lot of nostalgia-filter buttons, I think).

ETA: Wow, Lucifer, I think that's the classiest thing I've ever read on these forums. I'm impressed. Go give yourself a lollipop or something.

[Seif]

I have a hard time taking people who bash other people for liking FFXIII seriously becuase clearly they havent figured out that the world does not revolve around only what they like.

Alternately, like, take what you said and replace "XIII" with any other game ever. I have a hard time taking people who like The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past because clearly they were just pretending to play the game instead of really looking at what they're allowed to do in the game! Clearly!

Slightly more on topic, is there anyone else who'd like to see some lower-development-time, non-HD games (maybe for handhelds? Although even handhelds are HD resource-heavy games these days) come from SE? There's a /fairly/ high chance that this is nostalgia filter at play, and I've actually been really happy with what they've been doing, visually and otherwise, with the HD blockbuster approach. I'm just sort of curious what sort of game would come out of a more minimalistic approach to game resources (and I just got done playing Radiant Historia, which in addition to being fantastic, hit a lot of nostalgia-filter buttons, I think).

ETA: Wow, Lucifer, I think that's the classiest thing I've ever read on these forums. I'm impressed. Go give yourself a lollipop or something.

I agree that the games SE has been releasing on handhelds have been really good and honestly I'd like to see more of that happening. I especially liked the DS FF III and IV remakes. I don't think VITA development can be considered that fast any more though, but there is the 3ds that's still reasonably low-def.

[grandm]

I agree that the games SE has been releasing on handhelds have been really good and honestly I'd like to see more of that happening. I especially liked the DS FF III and IV remakes. I don't think VITA development can be considered that fast any more though, but there is the 3ds that's still reasonably low-def.

the one other thing them 2 games you mentioned have in common other than being on handhelds, they are both remakes of existing games, its not the handheld market that is their strong point, they need to get back to making games the way they used too, and i don't mean low-def, FF10 might have been the last truely great game they made (don't get me wrong i liked 12 and some ppl like 13) but i think 10 was the last one proclaimed as great by most, it had what FF3 and FF4 had great characters, great story, great game play plus high-def. this is what is needed to make the next FF game great