Jobs and Classes: Ratios.

[Vexerus]

Indeed I haz been wooshed. Apologies to Chinook.

Muskateer has a guild so probably safe to assume it will be a class and not a job.

[Jinko]

Ok I'll play/

GLA:-
Paladin (Tank)
Knight (Damage) - Greatsword

CON
Whitemage (Healing)
Summoner (Damage) - Whip

THM
Blackmage (Damage)
No idea (Healing or Enfeebling) not Red mage I would rather they kept that for Fencer.

Archer
Bard (Buffer)
Ranger (Damage) - Crossbow

PGL
Monk (Evasion Tank)
Theif (Damage) - Dagger

MRD
Warrior (Tank)
Dark Knight (Damage) - Sycthe

LNC
Dragon Knight (Damage)
Dancer lol ?

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

If Archer -> Bard is ranged damage with party support.

Could a Musketeer and the associated job, i.e. Ranger be more of a physical ranged damage specialist. Bowgun, I dunno.

I recall the Paladin snippet from Yoshi-P about Gladiator and Marauder initially, but didn't know if that was still in effect.

[Rydin]

So 2:1 most likely won't happen.
EDIT:
just thought, MAYBE as mentioned above, playing 2 classes together can unlock a 2nd tier of jobs, but the question is, where does the exp go?
(aka GLA CNJ and PGL = RDM?)
This might not sound as crazy as I 1st thought, but who knows...

And here we have 2(+):1

Archer + Musketeer -> RNG?
Gladiator + Conjurer + Thaumaturge -> RDM?

Okay this is where things get alittle strange. If 2 or more jobs are required does that mean we play our job with the options of those classes? Is a system like this going to exist in game? I question this. Will we see things like a RDM freely switching between sword and staff or a RNG freely using bows and guns? (X is not a function of Y here.) I question weather the class system is setting up well if it takes this kind of route, if not then well I guess we will be bound to 1:1(+). And what of the jobs being introduced now, they may only use one class?

In one of the interviews, Yoshi actually gave a hypothetical example of this.
He said in the future, something like Red mage might require both Conj and Thaum

I think it would add depth to the armoury system if a Job was linked to 2 different classes so you could choose between a Conj red mage or a thaum red mage
Or say Thief needing both Gladiator and Archer... Adding a bit of choice to jobs... which would really mesh well with the ideals behind the armoury system

[Chinook]

Indeed I haz been wooshed. Apologies to Chinook.

Hehe it's ok, there's so much crap around here that it's hard to decipher.

But please do not judge people by their allegiance and vice versa. I won't give concrete real examples of where that can lead to.

[Scherwiz]

Let's assume nothing, because look where that got us last week.

[Ferth]

For the argument that jobs are already 2:1 you don't seem to really be understanding the main premise of the OP.

Yeah the projected requirements for jobs will be a class at 30 and a class at 15 but the 30 class is still the only class that plays as a given job.

The OP is asking if there will ever be a system in place where several classes can all be played as a given job. So let's go with Red Mage as an example. Assuming at bare minimum THM and CNJ will both be required... will it ever be at the point where someone can be on the THM class and the RDM (sort of a more DPS spec'ed RDM with some support abilities/spells) job OR on the CNJ class and also the RDM job? (More of a Support/healing rdm with the ability for some DPS)

Meaning that 2 classes can effectively use the same job. that's what the 2:1 ratio implied.

I agree that it is far too early to have anything set in stone regarding jobs... but a system of this nature appeals to me alot... and I hope that if nothing else this thread can bring the idea to the Dev team's attention if they hadn't been considering anything of this nature so far.

[grandm]

Ok I'll play/

GLA:-
Paladin (Tank)
Knight (Damage) - Greatsword

CON
Whitemage (Healing)
Summoner (Damage) - Whip

THM
Blackmage (Damage)
No idea (Healing or Enfeebling) not Red mage I would rather they kept that for Fencer.

Archer
Bard (Buffer)
Ranger (Damage) - Crossbow

PGL
Monk (Evasion Tank)
Theif (Damage) - Dagger

MRD
Warrior (Tank)
Dark Knight (Damage) - Sycthe

LNC
Dragon Knight (Damage)
Dancer lol ?

a lot sounds ok to me but a few points

summoner: we have already had some strong hints this is already on the way possibly before 2.0 so sounds like it would be here before second round of jobs

dark knight + knight: i can see one of these being samurai

dancer: lancer i love it, i hope some1 starts a poll/petition for that

[NadienKirisame]

Heh I'll even add in more classes with jobs... why not... if your going to try and list it out go for them all :P

GLD - (Yoshi mentioned in an interview giving GLD two handers)
Paladin (Tank)
Dark Knight (Damage) - Greatsword

CNJ
Whitemage (Healing)
Geomancer (Damage)

THM
Blackmage (Damage)
Arithmetician (???)

Archer
Bard (Buffer)
Ranger (Damage)

PGL
Monk (Evasion Tank)
Dancer (Debuff dancing/DPS)
omega/ruby weapon/ sin (hybrid) - Added for grandm :P

MRD
Warrior (Tank/DPS)
Samurai (damage)

LNC
Dragon Knight (Damage)
???

ARC (Arcanist)
Mystic (Damage)
Time Mage (Buff/Debuff)

MSK (Musketeer)
Orator (damage/Debuff)
???

FNC (Fencer)
Red Mage
Blue Mage

THF (Thief)
Ninja (Debuff/DPS)
???

Hmmmm some of them I just can't think of other jobs to go with them...

The cat is amused =^.^=

[grandm]

^^no kitty, i respect ur opinion very much, but not with that

lancer should be dancer., it even makes the bards life easy when they sing for thier suppa

pug should - omega/ruby weapon/ sin. (hybrid)

and i'm not just saying that because pug is my favorite