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  1. #14111
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    Luciel-Nyx's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Mica Neiri
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    In my experience it tends to come down to people just not having any concept of situational awareness. It's astounding how many times I've seen people bite it due to falling columns or completely miss their team markers in spite of the fact that they've been set up since the beginning of the fight. I've even seen people stand straight underneath the raised columns and just continue to merrily cast away even as the rest of the raid is booking it to the far side of the arena. This is the one fight out of all the casual content that punishes people who aren't willing to keep any eye out for mechanics and I think you can squarely place all the fight's woes on that aspect alone. People do not want to pay attention even when they're constantly dying.
    Amen to that
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  2. #14112
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    Kazgrel's Avatar
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    Kazela Arniman
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Seems like everyone forgot how to do Rabanastre with the patch. Got it as part of alliance raid roulette today only to get a group that wiped on first boss due to adds everywhere and a second set of golems on Hashbrown. Managed to clear somehow...glad I had queued it as RDM because I tossed out a dozen rezes minimum.

    Decided to run it later for some creation tomes...just about the exact same results. Still cleared, but yeesh.
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  3. #14113
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Did Susano with a few FC buds tonight, as a bunch are in SB now.

    I get invited and queue in as AST, wjich I'm trying to relearn as I just picked it back up to finish the last bit of the Anima. Co-heal is SCH, go Diurnal, FC tank is explaining to sword to my man, who is a newbie tank, and we go.

    Immediately notice many AOEs are being eaten, but 4 people were new (2 of which were FC mates), so it's just learning what Susano dishes out. I'm healing hard, my man is getting wrecked, people are getting hits, but at least my draws are good. I get hit with the stack and run for aid, only for three party members to share it.

    Owie. I heal us and see my MT is dead just that fast. OT is on it, I rez, him, Susano goes into sword mode and we do it fine. Second time, I jokingly go to /hug my guy.... and click the sword! Oh shit.

    No worries, this is story mode.... and I melt. Wipe. I got no heals. No biggie, I wasn't supposed to grab the sword, anyway XD

    We go in again, and my cohealer dies from AOE spam. I rez her, and it times out. We get to the gaol part, and of course it's me, and half the party dies as I'm locked up, and we end up wiping.

    Cohealer, buddy, you there? She responds that she's slogging a bit, we go back in, and it's pretty dang clear her fairy is on sic and she's probably dozing off at her desk XD

    We win, she books it, and my FC mates there were amused at my solo heal job. Woof.

    But, at least I know I can still AST.
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    Last edited by Ametrine; 02-02-2018 at 06:10 PM.

  4. #14114
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    sakkito's Avatar
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    Character
    Meme Unnie
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    A bit of TMI to start of the thread My main is on EU server. I have very, very recently created an alt on NA one to be able to play with my friend who transferred there.
    In a year of playing on eu one I had maybe 15 stories where I just went mentaly 'eh?'. Two days levelling my alt and I am kinda seeing why there are so many stories on this thread.

    1. In tam tara. I am as dps there and my friend as well. Two other mentor joins us (all the jobs are slightly irrelevant; I was on ACN though). I mentally shrug and just say that I am on my alt and it is a 'fake' bonus. Ok. We go. Quickly I notice that tanks HP is laying very very low. Like properly super low. I have healer on my main and that 'low' gives me jeebies. I throw physick his way several times to save him. Then she (healer) runs ahead and pulls another pack (brings it to us) while we are still finishing the last pack and when we finish new acquisition she runs in to trigger boss so we run into the boss room with seconds to go. Then after boss she runs off (I am clicking off the bulbs) and pulls big for us and the tank. At that stage I am constantly throwing physick his way otherwise death ahead. We wipe anyway. I type in, in the chat nicely asking not to pull for the tank (I am a bit hesitant to write to healer to actually heal him before he reaches the brink because ... well, 1 complain per wipe is enough). She explains that they are a couple and she was just messing with him. After that comment tho she stopped pulling ahead even though his hp levels were still a bit of a hazard (I stopped healing him because if he knows what is happening they can deal with themselves). We finished the run quickly after that.
    Just a note. Yes I didn't notice the same surname (I don't have the habit of checking that stuff)... but it would be nice to just write ahead next time? Like: Hi, do you mind if I mess with the tank a bit? We are mates/sex slaves/whatever. And I would be all for it. I do mess with people myself if it is a full party of friends but with strangers without a notice? ^^'

    2. Ifrit NM. I am still on ACN. The rest of the jobs are irrelevant (I am the only class there tho).
    Me: Hi guys! I am on my alt here! So no worries I know what to do ^^ Let's have fun!
    Tank Mentor says: I am gay
    DPS: me too!
    Tank: I was joking
    DPS: ...oh
    That was the end of conversation in the chat. I could put a lecture here about insensitivity of this kind of jokes but meh. In the end DPS got my comm.
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    Last edited by sakkito; 02-02-2018 at 07:50 PM.

  5. #14115
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    That's normally my rule because honestly, at level 70, you should know not to do this
    Quote Originally Posted by Leowilde View Post
    Wether relevant in this case I don't know, but: jump potions. Very well could be.
    That still isnt acceptable(not that i think youre saying it IS Leo). Even if you jumped to 60 and story skipped you still had to level to 70, play through all the SB story, get through the patch 4.1 story and part of this weeks 4.2 stuff, then que for a brand new "Expert" dungeon. At a minimum they had to run 6 dungeons and 3 trials to get there - all of which are tuned more highly then the "starter" dungeons and trials - plus having run the dungeon once already to not be a new person anymore. Thats more then enough time to pick up at least the basics of dungeon etiquette. And being upset that someone else is new in content when said content is less then two days old? I almost never kick people(not counting disconnects/excessive AFK because duh), but it sounds like id have voted yes if youd initiated that one.
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  6. #14116
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    OR just a masive dick, he was most likely some old player who thought he was the stuff. It's not always a jump person who is a jerk. - a person who jumped who is not a jerk-
    Have to Agree with KO here.
    Its usually the overgeared experienced player with raid gear that does this.Simply because they are impatient and want to rush the dungeon as fast as possisble for their tomes.
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  7. #14117
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    Otaru's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Nareyn Rose
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 71
    Got bored earlier and decided to unlock CT on an alt just so I could have Alliance Roulette unlocked for any jobs I plan to pick up on said alts after maxing out her current main (WHM).

    Labyrinth goes slightly okay. The Bone Dragon bit was a bit of a mess and the pads part was the usual hit or miss bit, but otherwise it was a decent run. Syrcus was definitely better as there were little to no issues.

    But World of Darkness? It was way messier than any other WoD runs I ever had. 3 wipes to just Angra Mainyu. Namely due to the fact that my alliance's tank apparently kept zoning out and eating all the bad, as well as none of the other tanks thinking to grab the Ahriman adds that get summoned, thus killing the healers and DPS. Dragon boss was a bit of a mess as well, as no one wanted to kill the slimes. Cerberus was a slight mess too as the before mentioned tank of mine decided to pull him around (and when my coheal asked him to stop, he just responded with "I'm dancing"), but despite all the cleaves people got hit with due to the "dancing", it could have been worse.

    It was somehow cleared, but that was seriously the messiest WoD I ever had to deal with, let alone heal. And I've ran/healed some WTF o'clock runs that weren't as messy as that was. I definitely felt for my coheal having to deal with that mess, especially at Angra since I kept getting ko'd due to either my stupidity (trying to rez and being hit in the face with eye beam or moving out of the debuff zone too slow and doubling my own debuff) or the tanks not grabbing adds and having my face eaten.
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  8. #14118
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    They need to lower the ilvl cap on those raids to be honest.If peole get punished harder for ignoring the mechanics they'll be eventually forced to actually do them or learn them if they dont know them.
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  9. #14119
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    They need to lower the ilvl cap on those raids to be honest.If peole get punished harder for ignoring the mechanics they'll be eventually forced to actually do them or learn them if they dont know them.
    ...You have too much faith in people. More often than not, when people are faced with a situation like that they will vote abandon.
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  10. #14120
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    ChaoticCrimson's Avatar
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    Subspace
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    Crimson Law
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Ran Jade Stoa normal to wrap things up last night and get the last few tomes I needed for a piece of Mendacity gear. This was my second time running it, and we had at least two people new to the run. Perfectly reasonable, of course. In any case, I decided to test things out as SMN this time. I was pumping out some pretty good damage I felt, except it didn't take long to note this particular group was going to be more difficult to handle than the boss himself. One healer kept dying, which left the other healer to spend a lot of time rezzing them. I'm not sure if the RDM was also pitching in with the raising, but healing was notably suffering, and I also used up Swiftcast to rez someone at least one time that I remember. I didn't see who, but based on what I saw in the chat someone was repeatedly running into the first set of orbs he launches.

    A lot of people were also having a hard time getting to the stack markers whenever Byakko grabs someone. A lot of times, I was the one grabbed, which got me killed once when people didn't get to the marker in time. Another time, I had been slammed and had only about half my HP, tried to make the second stack marker right after to soak the other person's damage, and hoping someone would heal me before the attack hits. But I think only one other person made it to the marker and I didn't get healed, so that killed me again. About the only times I was spared being grabbed was when Lucid Dreaming came off cooldown in time for me to use it before he did it. Now, I will admit I barely took a leg sweep that I probably shouldn't have, but even that didn't kill me. The group also had a hard time dealing damage on the tiger before it could launch its attack, in spite of the nice damage I did with Bahamut, DoTs, etc. We barely got the tiger down to maybe 20% HP before the attack went.

    Basically I spent most of the battle trying not to get my rotations too badly thrown off and trying not to get killed by other players. In the end, I got rezzed after the stack kill, didn't get healed after, and maybe had enough time to reapply Tri-Disaster and do a round of Ruin3+Ruin2 before I ate an unavoidable double Storm Pulse and died again right when the boss died. I can be a bit forgiving seeing as it's a new fight, but even so that was painful to run and it's almost remarkable we didn't wipe.
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