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  1. #11
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    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Siren
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Honestly, this type of housing should have never been opened up as personal housing in the first place, the systems were promised to be different and then as we've gone SE has just dug their grave of mistakes deeper and deeper. I do hope they're working to fix the system, and I am fine with FCs having first grabs.
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  2. #12
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    Pod Egress
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    Gilgamesh
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    Leatherworker Lv 70
    Personal Housing should've been separate from the get go.
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  3. #13
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    Fax Machine
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    Pandaemonium
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    Conjurer Lv 4
    Originally only FCs were allowed to buy houses. Then they opened it up to everyone and then people got extremely greedy and acted like the Donald Trump of their server. You're going to have to deal with the pain of them fixing the mistakes they shouldn't have made in the first place.
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  4. #14
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    This makes sense and should've stayed this way since housing was introduced. That's all there is to it.

    Also the excessive use of "ya'll" and being angry supposedly on other people's behalf? Which forum am I on again?
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  5. #15
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    Pandaemonium
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    Conjurer Lv 4
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Also the excessive use of "ya'll" and being angry supposedly on other people's behalf? Which forum am I on again?
    Uh, that's always this forum.
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  6. #16
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    Originally only FCs were allowed to buy houses. Then they opened it up to everyone and then people got extremely greedy and acted like the Donald Trump of their server.
    Nah. Originally they said personal housing would be on a separate system (and cheaper). Then come patch day (despite many requests for more information they ignored up till then)....

    Surprise! It's just FC housing for personal individuals, and at the same price.

    SE's lying in the bed they made...
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  7. #17
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 60
    As much fun as it is to gripe and moan about what SE has done to the detriment of housing, how about providing solutions like....

    ....making FC-exclusive wards, because the major issue that devs seem to be focused on is that some players own multiple houses on a server while up-and-coming FCs can't get a single one. By making wards with plots that only FCs can get, this would not only allow for a qualitative expansion of housing, but it would also enable an increased potential for communications opening up between FCs on a server. The other alternative for expanding FC housing would be....

    ....banning individuals from buying mansions, which I know is a bit harsh to those with way more money than they know what to do with, but this would be another means of allowing FCs better access to housing. The only problem with it would be getting individuals with mansions to give those up, which wouldn't likely happen unless....

    ....players could get reimbursed for voluntarily surrendering their housing plot rather than letting it sit there and wait until that timer runs out, which is amazing because can you remember the last time that demolition timer wasn't stopped or stalled for some reason? Me neither. Anyway, by providing greater incentives for people who, for example, own multiple houses to surrender a plot or a just taking a break from a game to give up their sole housing plot, that would also open up housing for both FCs AND individual active players to take up. 70% of the plot price sounds like a fair enough of a reward for those who surrender their plots either manually or by running the demo timer out (might need to be less of a reward there), and if there is any reason why SE would wish to stop that timer, they can instead just increase that reward to 100% of the plot and permit price while being able to keep the timer going.

    I'm sure there are better ideas, but I'd much rather figure out what SE can do now rather than whine about what they've already done.
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  8. #18
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    Siolenas Darkleaf
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    Zalera
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    Dragoon Lv 76
    Personally I wouldn't care if they allowed cross gardening in an apartment. Thats the only thing I miss about having a house. Giving that to FC is very unbalanced. FC don't give access to the garden to the members and alot of those benefits become only accessible to the guild leader...
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  9. #19
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I get their intentions allowing FCs to go first, but it's going to backfire hard, because well ... this is happening:

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  10. #20
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    I get their intentions allowing FCs to go first, but it's going to backfire hard, because well ... this is happening:

    That's been happening for years. The FC chest is a major boon to guild farmers/sellers as it allows them to congregate the money the bots are making into one big pile. If any of them are doing it for the house I'd be amazed.
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