Glamour dresser red flag

[Callinon]

It wouldn't matter if the item was destroyed EXCEPT we have this retarded 200 limit. Hit the limit and need to remove something... too bad, you lose it. -__-;

Exactly. I originally suggested destroying the item to convert it into a glamour (to avoid weird market problems), but you can't do that with limited space.

Maybe SE doesn't realize how much MMO players hate losing things they work for?

Item destruction, or limited space in the dresser (I may go back to calling it a toilet).. not both.

[Atreyu]

As someone with 4 retainers and half my inventory full of gear I've collected through the years, I'm very concerned about this system. I was excited about it at first but now... I'm not so sure I want to use it at all if it's going to destroy the things I've worked to obtain.

[Krotoan]

As someone with 4 retainers and half my inventory full of gear I've collected through the years, I'm very concerned about this system. I was excited about it at first but now... I'm not so sure I want to use it at all if it's going to destroy the things I've worked to obtain.

While the concern is valid, I don't think it's that bad.

Destroyed as in , you'll never get to use that item as gear again. If you ever see yourself using a particular item as gear and not glamour, do not dresser it. However, if you have a hat that looks good but is level 1 and you don't think you'll care about using it on retainers or Squadron members soon, go for it. Keep in mind they've announced plans for it to be usable on your NPC friends eventually.. but that is also "Soon™", so I wouldn't hold your breath on that part.
The doom and gloom crowd still mystifies me , the system is usable . Agreed it's not optimal, but it's not unusable by any measure.

[Brynne]

I'm super bummed that you can't take anything out of the dresser once it's in. Combined with the item limit, it really restricts what I feel I can do with the system. But, the more I think about it, the more I think this might be a "beta" version of the feature. I'm hoping so, anyway. A few important upgrades would make it more usable.

1) Remove restrictions (200 item limit, 10 glamour plates) or make them much, much higher than they currently are (or allow items to be retrieved).

2) Allow plates to be applied anywhere in the world.

3) Allow plates to be applied to retainers and squadron members.

If you assume this is a feature in its beta stage, then these limitations make sense - they want to see how it works and how the system performs before opening the gates on one or more of these. I'll go the optimistic route for now and hope that future enhancements are coming. In the meantime, I'm going to be putting all of my job artifact gear into the dresser - it's easy to re-obtain if needed and I can't use it on squadron members anyway. I want to try making some glamour plates so that my summoner has a unique look from my red mage, and this will help with that. Maybe in the future I'll have more freedom for creativity but time will tell.

[Krotoan]

I'm super bummed that you can't take anything out of the dresser once it's in. Combined with the item limit, it really restricts what I feel I can do with the system. But, the more I think about it, the more I think this might be a "beta" version of the feature. I'm hoping so, anyway. A few important upgrades would make it more usable.

This is exactly how I'm seeing it. Initial foray for numbers and impact study. I would be surprised if this didn't get expanded at all. I'm actually expecting to see the armoire phased out and just added to the dressers inventory once it's applicable to all glamours everywhere (squads, retainers) since there is little to nothing in there that affects stats. There is the few "under *blahblah* level +% XP" things that would need to be moved or accounted for, but 99% of it is looks only.

[reivaxe]

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I agree. The doom and gloom is confusing.
But I also see that it might be a case of perspective at play here. For example, I'm a tank just getting back into this game. Now that I'm back I'm trying to progress through this game with my highest being a currently 55 PLD and next a 51 DRK and next a 50 WAR.

So to me this seems super cool. NOTHING I come across will ever be of much use to me for anything other than looks unless it's Bis until I'm max and I really only have to worry about tank stuff that's around the same level.

But for someone at max level with like 5+ maxed out jobs with different gear needs and more than 2 retainer they have to take care of? They may not like the idea of throwing out something that could be useful even if it's not bis for this or that or the 10 plate thing. They have far more options than I do and more to take care of.

[Krotoan]

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But for someone at max level with like 5+ maxed out jobs with different gear needs and more than 2 retainer they have to take care of? They may not like the idea of throwing out something that could be useful even if it's not bis for this or that or the 10 plate thing. They have far more options than I do and more to take care of.

Of course, but saying the system has NOTHING to offer that "veteran" is false. There's still inventory mitigation available and potential for even the person who needs alt costumes for every single job. More options is better than no options. And before someone chimes in with "but they did it all wrong", I'm going to stop trying to convince you of the dev side and just say: This is what we have, we might as well see how it works and provide feedback based on that since it's coming anyway.

[reivaxe]

Of course, but saying the system has NOTHING to offer that "veteran" is false. There's still inventory mitigation available and potential for even the person who needs alt costumes for every single job. More options is better than no options. And before someone chimes in with "but they did it all wrong", I'm going to stop trying to convince you of the dev side and just say: This is what we have, we might as well see how it works and provide feedback based on that since it's coming anyway.

Oh I agree, I'm all for it. I never liked the current system cause I was max level for maybe a month a long time ago and saw how fast gear gets outdated so I mostly never bothered. This is a step up for everyone and a step in the right direction, no doubt about it. Like everything new I'm sure they will expand upon it.

[Cabalabob]

Well I’m officially scared to use this system. I put a piece of gear in it to test and it felt like throwing my hat into a pool of acid to see how fast it dissolved. You know a system is broken when you’re afraid to use it for its intended function.

We can’t even glamour things from the dresser with the old system, you have to use a plate, I had high hopes for the glamour system changes but as it is I can’t see myself ever using it.

[Callinon]

10 Plates is enough to give a unique glamour to each Job plus 2 classes.

Use old Glamour System for
1 Tank Job
1 Healer Job
1 Caster Job
1 Ranged Job
1 Mnk/Sam
1 Drg
1 Nin

Then you just have to use plates for
2 Tank Jobs
2 Healer Jobs
2 Caster Jobs
1 Ranged Job
1 Mnk/Sam

Well it WAS a good idea.

Shame the plate system is worse than anyone could have possibly anticipated.