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    Quote Originally Posted by Deithwen View Post
    And yet a parser is necessary to play your job at it's maximum potential.

    It becomes a necessity to know the other's DPS when you're doing high level content. Imagine the following situation : you set up a static and progress on the last available raid. Thing is your group reaches enrage every time without clearing it. No mistakes are made, no death. In this case it's DPS problem : one member is probably lower than he should be. How do you know which person needs to put more work on his gameplay without a parser ?

    Also, your statement about stats, thing is we have to use a parser to understand the substats effects. It is not possible without it.
    Back in my days of silkroad and cabal online the hardest content was reserved for the best groups and guilds, not randoms.

    There are good and bad sides of the parser, of which one is impacting the gameplay and community and the other helps your to do as best as it is possible.
    I could understand people playing this game for so many years, that all they have left to do in this game is to maximize the performance of each class, but the people who does that really need to ask themself a question, wouldnt it be better if they will play other games instead and get involved into them as much as they do in FF XIV and coming back after new patches? Because any game has just finite amount of playtime it could offer and mmorpg's are not different.
    Instead of trying hard and losing nerves, try to play something else, so eventually game developer will make certain activity easier in order to make people playing it and winning it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Sigh

    How do I put this?

    If we were to gather a hub of a players, set about 10. 2 of them are regularly bad apples but 8 of them are good people.

    According to your statement, which you have cited as an absolute time and time again, the use of a parser would have one of those 8 good people turn bad without fail.

    This is how we understand your use of "more harassment" and also why it doesn't make sense to us. Since those two bad people are already bad to begin with, you can't have any "more harassment" than those two already produce. So that only leaves the argument that only way it harassment can increase in a quantifiable way is that one of the 8 good people go bad.

    Do you now see why people like me and Kaldea and many others can't grasp that? Because you've stated that this exact situation will absolutely happen. It's already crazy to think that people's good behaviour in this game's current policy will absolutely change for the worst if SE decided to give the green light to full blown parse tommorow.

    TL;DR: you can't quantifiably have more harassment out of a set of people who are already parsing if it already exist. Stating that it absolutely will increase implies people's current behaviour when parsing is tied directly to the tool.
    Just install world of warcraft and see how it looks like there.
    Its not a pleasant expierence, hence why there is no fresh blood coming to the game, like at all.
    It doesnt help judging dps is bannable offence, it is also in WoW to harass others by their dps.
    He doesnt need to proof anything, the proof is sitting right there ready for someone who played only FFXIV to find out.

    This post on reddit says it all
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...arser/ddyuuck/

    There is a literal elephant in the room everyone pro parsing just trying to hide behind the couch, lol.
    And that doesnt help, when the dying body is lying on that couch (WoW).
    The discussion is about the official in game parser, not about taking them away from the community, this will for sure affect the average player gameplay forcing him to pay more attention to the numbers than the game itself, it will lead him to judge other players performance comparing to his own.
    The official one will not help, but just make this game a toxic swamp as the world of warcraft is today.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 01-19-2018 at 01:33 PM.